Classic Nook, where are you?

[Abulia]

Originally Posted by daizyduke

Once again I've been screwed by Barnes and Nobel. First they changed my shipping date from Dec 11 to Dec 22. I just happened to check my order status tonite to see if there were any changes. They changed my shipping date again to January 20th. What the hell? I am so f**king pissed off. This is a gift for my daughter for Christmas. Great way to lose customers. I think I will order elsewhere.

You may want to check your Inbox from B&N.

Miss Xmas delivery? $100 back

It's unfortunate they will miss the originally intended date. B&N is trying to make right -- they're under no obligation to provide $100 gift cards to folks -- but I've no doubt that won't be enough for some folks.

An interesting parallel between Christmas gift-giving and these delays: isn't it more about the sentiment and thought that counts?

[Connallmac]

Originally Posted by Abulia

You may want to check your Inbox from B&N.

Miss Xmas delivery? $100 back

I don't know about you, but this might go a long way towards me forgive them, were I one of their customers.

[stangri]

Originally Posted by Connallmac

Superior in your opinion.

Essentially. I thought I was entitled to post my opinion.

[Connallmac]

Originally Posted by stangri

Essentially. I thought I was entitled to post my opinion.

When you couch it as an opinion certainly.

You stated:

Originally Posted by stangri

I'd wait tho and get the superior device.

As though it was an established fact.

I tell folks that I find the KDX to be the superior e-reader for me. A few weeks ago I was discussing Kindles with the president of my company. I had shown her mine earlier in the year because she is also a heavy reader, and she was considering purchasing a Kindle for her husband as a birthday gift. This was around the end of November and no one had really handled a nook yet. I told her that I really liked my Kindle, but since she had a couple of months before her husband's birthday she ought to wait and take a look at a nook once the reviews started coming out and the display models started hitting the stores. I am an evangelist for ebooks and ereaders, but I try to be as device neutral as possible.

[Martlet]

It's a trade-off, really. There's always the next "superior" product about to launch. You either buy the best currently available, and use it for as long as you want, or you're constantly disappointed because you're waiting for the next best thing.

[stangri]

Originally Posted by Connallmac

You stated: As though it was an established fact.

I said what I would do, if I were in the same boat (my sentence even started with "I"). The OP has total freedom to take this opinion or not, which I think it was self-explanatory. But let me tell you *why* I think it's superior:

• It has better processor
• It supports epub (which seems to be established as de-facto standard for ebooks) with the modern software
• It follows the modern trends and adds a convenience of shedding physical keyboard for touch-screen on mobile devices
• It has WiFi so you don't have to worry about roaming fees when outside of USA when you need to download a book
• It has great potential for extra features due to its OS
• Oh and micro-USB is also becoming standard and nook has it

[Connallmac]

Originally Posted by stangri

I said what I would do, if I were in the same boat (my sentence even started with "I"). The OP has total freedom to take this opinion or not, which I think it was self-explanatory. But let me tell you *why* I think it's superior:

• It has better processor
• It supports epub (which seems to be established as de-facto standard for ebooks) with the modern software
• It follows the modern trends and adds a convenience of shedding physical keyboard for touch-screen on mobile devices
• It has WiFi so you don't have to worry about roaming fees when outside of USA when you need to download a book
• It has great potential for extra features due to its OS
• Oh and micro-USB is also becoming standard and nook has it

Fair enough, I may have read more into your statement than was intended. Here's why I think it's pretty much a wash between the two devices:

• I don't see epub as that much of an advantage. I'm pretty sure that if it does end up being the standard that a Kindle firmware update ought to be able to remedy that, much like pdf support which was recently added.
• I have yet to see a touch screen that functions nearly as well as a physical keyboard.
• The WiFi is a nice addition, but I don't think you can even use the 3G AT&T wireless abroad with the nook though, so it's more of a patch than a bonus.
• The Kindle already has a number of hacks that individuals have added to it, thus demonstrating it's flexibility. If Amazon should decide to release an sdk I'm sure you would see an explosion of apps.
• Micro-USB? I think calling that an advantage would be a reach at best.

The only place I see any real advantage may be the processor. But all of this is opinion. I think we will just have to agree to disagree.

[John Shields]

Originally Posted by Connallmac

Fair enough, I may have read more into your statement than was intended. Here's why I think it's pretty much a wash between the two devices:

• I don't see epub as that much of an advantage. I'm pretty sure that if it does end up being the standard that a Kindle firmware update ought to be able to remedy that, much like pdf support which was recently added.
• I have yet to see a touch screen that functions nearly as well as a physical keyboard.
• The WiFi is a nice addition, but I don't think you can even use the 3G AT&T wireless abroad with the nook though, so it's more of a patch than a bonus.
• The Kindle already has a number of hacks that individuals have added to it, thus demonstrating it's flexibility. If Amazon should decide to release an sdk I'm sure you would see an explosion of apps.
• Micro-USB? I think calling that an advantage would be a reach at best.

The only place I see any real advantage may be the processor. But all of this is opinion. I think we will just have to agree to disagree.

Actually for those very reasons posted by the person before you, is why I chose that device for my wife. More formats are good, the WiFi is good, the touchscreen in color is good, and the expansion is great. I thought the fact that Kindle didn't include an expansion slot (for cards) was absurd. My wife burns through books daily (she can read 300-400 pages or more in a day if she sits down to it). That means I'll either need more space or constantly delete, and re-upload new books. Much better to have a 4GB micro card for mysteries, histories, horror, etc.

Can't say that it's necessarily superior (it definitely doesn't have the shelf life as the Kindle and legitimate backing of development, testing, and updating like the Kindle which is now in it's second and third models). But it has potential. I know people say that you shouldn't get something for what it might do... but if I want it to do something I want it not to be limited in any way (like Kindles specific formats). Better to upgrade over time with updates and such then to be stuck with, "This is how it is and this is how it's going to be".

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Counter

Yes

Kindle 2 or Astak EzReader. Both work and work good. I like (I am partial) the Astak because of all the file types it can read and it is an open ebook in that you do not have to buy ebooks from any specific vendor or at a minimum it does not give you that locked in feeling even if you are not.

Just to note that, since the nook supports ePub, it has access to just as wide a range of books as does the Astak. You can buy books from any ePub bookstore and read them on the nook, just as you can on the Astak.