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Old 10-27-2009, 09:49 PM   #16
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Let's be honest, I bet part of the rationale was that kids would regard the kindle as 'cooler' than old-fashioned, dusty paper books like the ones their parents used...

In terms of information delivery there are significant advantages to electronic methods (search, links, etc) though it's often debatable whether there's a real savings in maintenance (you now get to pay some IT guys to maintain your servers instead of librarians to reshelve the books).

I'd really like to know Ron Hogan got his 7-inch floppies from though, they must be quite the collectors item unlike those useless 8-inch ones .
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:59 PM   #17
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Let's be honest, I bet part of the rationale was that kids would regard the kindle as 'cooler' than old-fashioned, dusty paper books like the ones their parents used...

In terms of information delivery there are significant advantages to electronic methods (search, links, etc) though it's often debatable whether there's a real savings in maintenance (you now get to pay some IT guys to maintain your servers instead of librarians to reshelve the books).

I'd really like to know Ron Hogan got his 7-inch floppies from though, they must be quite the collectors item unlike those useless 8-inch ones .
Just for fun, a 5.25" floppy is about 7.4" diagonally.
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since AMazon got spun up about another "quick fix" that used to be posted here and hasn't said diddle about this, I'm thinking it is not illegal
You'd make a terrible lawyer. Laws are not set based on whether a company decides to confront someone who is potentially breaking it.
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If you belong to a library that carries mobipocket ebooks, you can download to your computer, run kindlefix, upload to your Kindle.

The books still close after the loan period. No harm, no foul. Yes, they are "library" books. My local library, Maricopa County, carries them.
I'm sorry but I completely reject this answer. Obviously you can hack the library books to work on your kindle after you reverse engineer your Kindle's PID, assuming your library supports PID's with asterisks in them... but that's not supported functionality of the Kindle or the library.

Final answer: Kindle does not support eBooks from libraries. Period. Hacks don't count.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:22 PM   #20
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since AMazon got spun up about another "quick fix" that used to be posted here and hasn't said diddle about this, I'm thinking it is not illegal
If you mean that the school buying Kindles and Kindle books, and loaning it to the students, yes that's legal. No one is debating that.

If you mean stripping the DRM on a mobipocket file loaned to you from a library, that's clearly infringement and a school library is not going to do it.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:31 PM   #21
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Ankh: Nope, it's not supported on the Kindle. IIRC a Kindle can only read a Mobi file if it does not have DRM.


Kindlefix / Kindlepid are, from what I can tell, illegal methods to circumvent DRM. You may view this as a "no harm, no foul" situation; but it's still a hack and infringement, so I don't see how any school or library would use an approach like that.
It's not illegal in every country, and from what I can tell it's legal in most of the countries where you can buy the Kindle.
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You'd make a terrible lawyer. Laws are not set based on whether a company decides to confront someone who is potentially breaking it.
let me guess... you're a prosecutor.


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If you mean that the school buying Kindles and Kindle books, and loaning it to the students, yes that's legal. No one is debating that.

If you mean stripping the DRM on a mobipocket file loaned to you from a library, that's clearly infringement and a school library is not going to do it.
I don't see anywhere in the method DG has shown that stripping DRM is included, mentioned or used
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nice to see someone managed to stampeed the cats....AGAIN...cripes people try and stay on topic now and then...then again it might explain why my broker suggested I buy Alcoa stock...

Hope soneone can come along and heard them all back on topic...

DG...nice follow-up on the library. I think it's a very neat concept, long way to go to be efficent but really that sets squarely on the shoulders of the publishers to make it possible.
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