2016 Olympics - Page 2

HarryT · 10-03-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Superlucky

I think the folks in Beijing who had their homes demolished without compensation and were then arrested for protesting that fact regret hosting the games.

If you read my post, you'll see that I was referring to the Manchester games

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vivaldirules · 10-03-2009, 01:16 PM

I recall seeing in the early 1990's photos of the venues that had been built for the Sarajevo winter olympics a few years earlier. The structures were nearly all unused and were in awful shape. The expense and destruction in building facilities that are going to be used only once seems like such a tragedy, although they had their own special tragedy a couple of years later.

HarryT · 10-03-2009, 01:22 PM

I believe that these days, VR, consideration of what the facilities will be used for after the event is a major factor is the judging of Olympic bids. A big factor in London's winning the 2012 games was the fact that it involved the complete regeneration of what had been a very derelict and run-down area of the city.

vivaldirules · 10-03-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I believe that these days, VR, consideration of what the facilities will be used for after the event is a major factor is the judging of Olympic bids. A big factor in London's winning the 2012 games was the fact that it involved the complete regeneration of what had been a very derelict and run-down area of the city.

Excellent. I am glad to hear that is now part of the decision process.

kennyc · 10-03-2009, 01:41 PM

Well Denver, CO is the only city ever awarded the olympics that turned it down.

Something of a strange thing to in it's past.

I think the Rio Olympics will be much more fun than Chicago anyway.

Particularly since the U.S. has such horrible copyright issues.

vivaldirules · 10-03-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Well Denver, CO is the only city ever awarded the olympics that turned it down.

Something of a strange thing to in it's past.

Did Denver apply and then change their mind?

HarryT · 10-03-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Well Denver, CO is the only city ever awarded the olympics that turned it down.

Something of a strange thing to in it's past.

Honestly? Why did they bid if they didn't want it? Must have cost them a fortune!

HarryT · 10-03-2009, 01:50 PM

To answer my own question:

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/...012stone.shtml

What an interesting story!

kennyc · 10-03-2009, 01:59 PM

Yes, somewhat shameful I think.. Apparently the Beaver Creek Ski Resort was built for it before the voters rejected it.

kazbates · 10-03-2009, 02:02 PM

Frankly, I couldn't believe Chicago thought they had a chance of winning, what with all the bad press Illinois and Chicago politics have gotten in the recent past. Take it from a former Chicagoan, it doesn't matter who gets elected, the great Chicago Political machine isn't going to change. I was glad Rio won; although, I agree with others that it can be a huge burden on the resident population.

roger the rabbit · 10-03-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I was delighted to see that Rio won the bid for the 2016 Olympic games. They have never been held in South America, and I think that Rio will put on a spectacular show!

Well for sure the (ladies) beach volley ball will be worth watching! !!!!!!!

phenomshel · 10-03-2009, 03:26 PM

I have to admit I'm relieved that Chicago didn't get the Games, too. It sounds churlish, but I just didn't want to put up with all the massive construction, etc. as has been mentioned in previous posts. I live far enough out that most of it wouldn't have bothered me, except when we had to go in to Chicago for airport duty, which we'll still be doing in 2016.

ShortNCuddlyAm · 10-03-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

i was really relieved that paris didn't get the olympics when we were a candidate. it would have been utter chaos here with all the tourists (not even taking into account the construction, etc.). but that's a purely personal reaction since i already get annoyed by crowds of tourists. i think it can also be great for the city hosting because of the influx of cash from tourists etc. and rio certainly does know how to throw a party so i'm sure they'll do a great job.

On the day the decision was due to be announced, someone had the forethought to bring a radio to work, and a whole bunch of us gathered around it at the relevant time. When it was announced London had got them, most of my colleagues got really excited and started cheering. I groaned and skulked off.

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Originally Posted by Nate the great

If I lived near a city that was going to host the Olympics, I would move.

That's very tempting.

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Originally Posted by HarryT

... and rent out your house for a vast sum for the fortnight of the games? Excellent idea

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As is that. I know of people who do that during Wimbledon each year (we're not close enough for it to be an option for us

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leandroide · 10-03-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I guess that some games are better financially planned than others.

Manchester put a massive amount of effort into its 2000 Olympic bid, and used all that expertise for its subsequent Commonwealth Games bid. It all seemed to work extremely well. The city massively profitted from it, I believe. After the games were over, Manchester City football club took over the stadium as their new "home".

I think that a good planification is a key point in all this. Barcelona'92 improved the city a lot, and I think that they didn't left unused infrastructure.

L.

fugazied · 10-03-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vivaldirules

I think it's terrific. Well, except that I always wonder if it isn't a bit of a curse for the people who have to endure the construction, development, taxation, and chaos. But it should be fun.

It will be great to see it in Rio, but it means a lot of upheavel for the people there.

When they had the Olympics in Sydney in 2000 they shipped all of the homeless out of the city. They have a lot of slums in Rio, and a lot of crime. The crackdowns will probably be harsh.

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10-03-2009, 01:16 PM	#17
vivaldirules When's Doughnut Day? Posts: 10,059 Karma: 13675475 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, TX, US Device: Sony PRS-505, iPad	I recall seeing in the early 1990's photos of the venues that had been built for the Sarajevo winter olympics a few years earlier. The structures were nearly all unused and were in awful shape. The expense and destruction in building facilities that are going to be used only once seems like such a tragedy, although they had their own special tragedy a couple of years later.

10-03-2009, 01:22 PM	#18
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,556 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I believe that these days, VR, consideration of what the facilities will be used for after the event is a major factor is the judging of Olympic bids. A big factor in London's winning the 2012 games was the fact that it involved the complete regeneration of what had been a very derelict and run-down area of the city.

10-03-2009, 01:41 PM	#20
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,907 Karma: 119230421 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	Well Denver, CO is the only city ever awarded the olympics that turned it down. Something of a strange thing to in it's past. I think the Rio Olympics will be much more fun than Chicago anyway. Particularly since the U.S. has such horrible copyright issues.

10-03-2009, 01:50 PM	#23
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,556 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	To answer my own question: http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/...012stone.shtml What an interesting story!

10-03-2009, 01:59 PM	#24
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,907 Karma: 119230421 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	Yes, somewhat shameful I think.. Apparently the Beaver Creek Ski Resort was built for it before the voters rejected it.

10-03-2009, 02:02 PM	#25
kazbates Wizard Posts: 2,627 Karma: 406616 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northern Virginia Device: SurfacePro, SurfaceBook 2	Frankly, I couldn't believe Chicago thought they had a chance of winning, what with all the bad press Illinois and Chicago politics have gotten in the recent past. Take it from a former Chicagoan, it doesn't matter who gets elected, the great Chicago Political machine isn't going to change. I was glad Rio won; although, I agree with others that it can be a huge burden on the resident population.

10-03-2009, 03:26 PM	#27
phenomshel ZCD BombShel Posts: 4,793 Karma: 8293322 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Frozen North (aka Illinois, USA) Device: iPad, STB Kindle Oasis	I have to admit I'm relieved that Chicago didn't get the Games, too. It sounds churlish, but I just didn't want to put up with all the massive construction, etc. as has been mentioned in previous posts. I live far enough out that most of it wouldn't have bothered me, except when we had to go in to Chicago for airport duty, which we'll still be doing in 2016.

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