Kindle not indexing books? - Page 2

Echeban · 11-09-2015, 09:43 AM

PD site is mentioned many times in this thread. What is PD site ?

HarryT · 11-09-2015, 09:58 AM

PD = Public Domain.

melovesflying · 05-11-2016, 06:43 PM

Does the search text in book function work with sideloaded books? I tried it on a book just now and I get "title not yet indexed". I just got my PW yesterday and loaded books last night so I'm thinking it's either the search doesn't work or the device is still busy indexing all books.

eschwartz · 05-11-2016, 07:42 PM

It is still busy indexing the books -- hence the wording of the status message.

It can take a while, depending on how many books need to be indexed. You can see how many books still need to be indexed by searching for a nonsense word in the All Books scope.

The Kindle does not distinguish between sideloaded and purchased books. However, purchased books will download extra information that sideloaded books generally don't have, like X-Ray, pagenumber, and Authorinfo data. (Note that there is software to generate guesstimated pagenumbers, or scrape Shelfari/Goodreads and generate X-Ray files.)
Search uses an index created on the device, so it is naturally available to sideloaded books.

melovesflying · 05-11-2016, 08:33 PM

That clears up things. Thanks!

also, does it index while in sleep mode or only when it's actively running? I'm looking at the battery indicator and it's decreasing a bit quick so I'm guessing the drain's due to the indexing of books.

eschwartz · 05-11-2016, 09:11 PM

It indexes as a background job, even (especially) during sleep.

The indexer eats quite a bit of battery in the process -- it's not a bad idea to leave it plugged in overnight to index. I believe the indexer runs faster when charging, probably because it knows it can safely use a lot more power without running down the battery while you are trying to read.

Barbara1955 · 05-11-2016, 09:15 PM

IF its stuck on 1-2 ebooks then Delete them & re-download them.

eschwartz · 05-11-2016, 09:17 PM

And who said it is stuck?

tomsem · 05-11-2016, 09:51 PM

This is a very old thread. Odd that it is somehow still relevant.

Pyjam · 05-12-2016, 05:16 AM

I had the same problem recently. For hours, the Kindle refused to index the book I was currently reading (even when not reading it). Eventually I plugged the Kindle in. Ten minutes later, the book was indexed.

HarryT · 05-12-2016, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyjam

I had the same problem recently. For hours, the Kindle refused to index the book I was currently reading (even when not reading it). Eventually I plugged the Kindle in. Ten minutes later, the book was indexed.

It's a very good idea to always plug the Kindle in to a wall socket while it's indexing. The indexer process appears to run at very low priority when the device is on battery power. It indexes in a fraction of the time when it's on external power.

HarryT · 05-12-2016, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomsem

This is a very old thread. Odd that it is somehow still relevant.

Probably not too odd. Indexing has always been a part of the way the Kindle works, and hence always has, and probably always will, cause occasional issues for people.

melovesflying · 05-12-2016, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyjam

I had the same problem recently. For hours, the Kindle refused to index the book I was currently reading (even when not reading it). Eventually I plugged the Kindle in. Ten minutes later, the book was indexed.

Looks like it. I checked mine before I left the house and it says that there were 820 books remaining to be indexed. Just left it on sleep mode without plugging it in. I checked when I got back and it's still the same. I plugged it in to my computer an hour ago and I checked it just now and the number went down to 773.

spindlegirl · 11-15-2017, 08:09 PM

I had to use the search feature for a side-loaded book on my Kindle, even though this thread is old, the solution to my problem was in the restarting and plugging in as suggested above. Thank you.

reinsley · 03-12-2018, 08:05 AM

Old topic and useful.

As I was running ;ReadingTimeReset on my KPPW, a warning said that indexing was not complete. Same message after 4 days.

A Calibre test of the book said that a huge index file PL27.xhtml was too big.

However ReadingTimeReset was running fine and no drain battery.
I guess that KPPW can lose a lot of power because of massive indexing.

I killed the Index Chapter (done by the editor and the author, full of hyperlinks), quite useless, Calibre check said no problemo. And no warning from the Kindle.

03-12-2018, 08:05 AM	#30
reinsley Connoisseur Posts: 65 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: France Device: Kindle PaperWhite	Old topic and useful. As I was running ;ReadingTimeReset on my KPPW, a warning said that indexing was not complete. Same message after 4 days. A Calibre test of the book said that a huge index file PL27.xhtml was too big. However ReadingTimeReset was running fine and no drain battery. I guess that KPPW can lose a lot of power because of massive indexing. I killed the Index Chapter (done by the editor and the author, full of hyperlinks), quite useless, Calibre check said no problemo. And no warning from the Kindle. Last edited by reinsley; 03-16-2018 at 01:18 PM.

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11-09-2015, 09:43 AM	#16
Echeban Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: West Virginia Device: Kindle	PD site is mentioned many times in this thread. What is PD site ?

11-09-2015, 09:58 AM	#17
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	PD = Public Domain.

05-11-2016, 06:43 PM	#18
melovesflying Groupie Posts: 186 Karma: 13138 Join Date: Jun 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 3, Kobo Aura, Kobo Glo HD	Does the search text in book function work with sideloaded books? I tried it on a book just now and I get "title not yet indexed". I just got my PW yesterday and loaded books last night so I'm thinking it's either the search doesn't work or the device is still busy indexing all books.

05-11-2016, 07:42 PM	#19
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It is still busy indexing the books -- hence the wording of the status message. It can take a while, depending on how many books need to be indexed. You can see how many books still need to be indexed by searching for a nonsense word in the All Books scope. The Kindle does not distinguish between sideloaded and purchased books. However, purchased books will download extra information that sideloaded books generally don't have, like X-Ray, pagenumber, and Authorinfo data. (Note that there is software to generate guesstimated pagenumbers, or scrape Shelfari/Goodreads and generate X-Ray files.) Search uses an index created on the device, so it is naturally available to sideloaded books.

05-11-2016, 08:33 PM	#20
melovesflying Groupie Posts: 186 Karma: 13138 Join Date: Jun 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 3, Kobo Aura, Kobo Glo HD	That clears up things. Thanks! also, does it index while in sleep mode or only when it's actively running? I'm looking at the battery indicator and it's decreasing a bit quick so I'm guessing the drain's due to the indexing of books.

05-11-2016, 09:11 PM	#21
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It indexes as a background job, even (especially) during sleep. The indexer eats quite a bit of battery in the process -- it's not a bad idea to leave it plugged in overnight to index. I believe the indexer runs faster when charging, probably because it knows it can safely use a lot more power without running down the battery while you are trying to read.

05-11-2016, 09:15 PM	#22
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	IF its stuck on 1-2 ebooks then Delete them & re-download them.

05-11-2016, 09:17 PM	#23
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	And who said it is stuck?

05-11-2016, 09:51 PM	#24
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,900 Karma: 27013865 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	This is a very old thread. Odd that it is somehow still relevant.

05-12-2016, 05:16 AM	#25
Pyjam Zealot Posts: 143 Karma: 15920 Join Date: Aug 2015 Device: Kindle Voyage	I had the same problem recently. For hours, the Kindle refused to index the book I was currently reading (even when not reading it). Eventually I plugged the Kindle in. Ten minutes later, the book was indexed.

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11-15-2017, 08:09 PM	#29
spindlegirl Wizard Posts: 1,594 Karma: 21245891 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra h20, Paperwhite 2017, Phone & Tablet w Moonreader	I had to use the search feature for a side-loaded book on my Kindle, even though this thread is old, the solution to my problem was in the restarting and plugging in as suggested above. Thank you.