I hate Amazon. - Page 2

Alisa · 08-03-2009, 02:52 PM

I haven't bought any books that I already own in paper. I guess it's because I rarely re-read books and the few that I do are actually in my library's ebook collection or the Public Domain. I do buy a lot of books but I only buy when I want to read them. I get the free sample first and only buy the book when I've read it. I spend far less on books now than I used to. Buying the book at the end of the sample is so quick and easy, I don't really find a need to buy in advance. I generally have good Whispernet coverage so I've only done that when I was going out of the country.

I've never really had the urge to build collections of things. I know many do and that influences their purchasing decisions in electronic media as well as physical items. With physical books I can see the appeal of having a vast collection on the shelves to look at. They're a great conversation piece when friends visit. You talk about things you've both read or learn new things about each other's tastes. Plus I loved when a friend spotted an interesting looking book on my shelves and I could lend it to them. Since I don't get that with digital media, I'm less likely to buy speculatively or to have a complete collection. I stopped buying CDs years ago and only bought the songs I wanted after I'd listened to them. I'm the same way with books now.

pboss · 08-03-2009, 03:32 PM

Yeah, Amazon does that. That's their business policy and that's why they operate at very small margins. But not small enough that they couldn't afford Zappos.

geneven · 08-05-2009, 12:36 PM

You can get all the books from Gutenberg Project free on your Kindle if you download the mobiread version. I got my Kindle yesterday and am immersed in Four Days in November, which I purchased, but also downloaded several free books.

Free books do help stave off Consumer's Disease, which many of us have. And the great classics are permanently readable! Lately I have been tearing up over Little Women, for example -- and I'm a guy! (Prior to yesterday, I was doing my reading on my Nokia N800 and Nokia N810 computers...)

JSWolf · 08-05-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Leep

The ebooks at the library can help suppliment your book budget. Some of the bigger ones are adding new ebooks weekly. "Free" is a good price, plus you can do it from the comfort of your arm chair.

cheers

But, without messing with the DRM, you cannot take any eBooks from the library and read them using a Kindle.

Alisa · 08-05-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

But, without messing with the DRM, you cannot take any eBooks from the library and read them using a Kindle.

True but it's not like that's exactly difficult. It takes less than a minute. Still, I'd rather they added ePub support. That would be awesome.

daffy4u · 09-22-2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Physics Teacher

I also hate Amazon.com, but for different reasons

You may want to go back and read the post that started this thread. There really was no hate involved.

Physics Teacher · 09-22-2009, 05:37 PM

Amazon.com is a spammer. Please pass along to everyone you know. Amazon.com has a subsidiary named Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud, EC2, EU or http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/ . They *claim* that they are providing a service where businesses can contact customers. In fact, they are a collection of spammer-makers. A spammer opens an account with them and then spams everyone they can possibly find. When told they have a spammer customer, their response is to wait for 4 days, then tell you that you were correct, their customer *was* a spammer, and then tell you they have closed the account down. That is correct; they did close *that* account down. The spammer then opened a new account, under a different name, and continued to spam everyone they could find. Amazon.com’s response to being told their customer was still spamming was to set up a web-based email system asking the customer to provide esoteric information that only a network administrator would have easy access to. In other words, they give the people that report spam the run-around. This is to delay the response time before they are forced to tell their customer, “Darn it! That guy that you are spamming (chortle, chortle) has jumped through every hoop I’ve set for him. It’s time to close your account and open a new one (snicker, snicker) in another name.” They are just as much a crook as the spammer. Do not do business with a spammer like Amazon.com

Bilbo1967 · 09-22-2009, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Physics Teacher

Amazon.com is a spammer. Please pass along to everyone you know.

Hmm...and continually posting that would make you a what?

daffy4u · 09-22-2009, 05:40 PM

Now you have become a spammer.

Physics Teacher · 09-22-2009, 05:42 PM

I know daffy4u, but this information needs to get out. I have been spammed for over 15 times in the past week by the same individual. This individual, God only knows who, has moved from web-hoster to web-hoster until he found Amazon.com cloud services, and now he's found a home. Amazon.com refused to do their *civic duty.* The only recourse an individual consumer has is to hound Amazon.com until they do what a quality merchant does - patrol their site to make sure that only quality suppliers represent them. They have refused to do so after numerous warnings. They need to feel consumer's pain and stop the immoral, if not illegal, activities done from their website. Sorry this is so long and off topic, but I found this through a Google search, and I am simply trying to get my life back.

Physics Teacher · 09-22-2009, 05:44 PM

Like I said, sorry to bother you

daffy4u · 09-22-2009, 05:44 PM

But this site is about ebooks and ebook readers. Maybe you should find some kind of consumer reporting outlet.

NatCh · 09-22-2009, 05:48 PM

Physics Teacher, I understand your annoyance, and I also understand why this information would be important to share, however, posting it once has accomplished that aim, making two identical posts, in the same thread, in the space of less than ten minutes, is, at best, overkill.

Unless you wish to see your important, must-share information deleted as spam, and yourself banned from MobileRead as a spammer (oh, the irony), please accept my suggestion as a Moderator that you cool it just a bit.

</Moderator>

hal_9000 · 09-28-2009, 05:11 PM

thank god i still read about as fast as a third grader.

heaven forbid i speed up, and spend more than $10 a month.

does anyone know if there is a way to ensure one's reading speed stays slow? keep the contrast low? throw out your glasses?

but seriously, i've only spent $20 in the first 2 weeks, i'll read a book a fortnight or a week at the most (small one).

jaxx6166 · 10-15-2009, 09:18 PM

It's funny that I signed on today to see the thread I started so many months ago bumped up by a spammer.

Mostly, it's funny because I was thinking again about how evil Amazon is. I promised myself there would never be a backlog on my Kindle, like I have on my 700.

So - what do I do to keep that promise? I bought 5 more books.

Actually - I think I bought more than 4. And I find Dune getting farther and farther down along the list (I like to keep my library arranged in order that I plan on reading the books)

And I don't even want to consider all the free books that I have. I think SuvuDu is latin for Devil. (Are you reading this, Shawn!?)

So, with that said, here's to:

Canticle, Song of the Fell Hammer, The Red Wolf Conspiracy(Which I also bought for the 700 d'oh), A Darkness Forged in Fire (Same thing!), The Warded Man, The Mirrored Heavens, Night of Knives, Gardens of the Moon, Dragons of the Highlord Skies, Dragons of the Hourglass Mage, Patient Zero, Bones of the Dragon, The Well of Ascention, Elric, Dune, and Boneshaker which have now ended up in my backlog!!

D'oh!!!!!!

08-05-2009, 12:36 PM	#18
geneven Member Retired Posts: 124 Karma: 340 Join Date: Aug 2008 Device: Nokia N800, N810, Kindle 2	Defense against Amazon You can get all the books from Gutenberg Project free on your Kindle if you download the mobiread version. I got my Kindle yesterday and am immersed in Four Days in November, which I purchased, but also downloaded several free books. Free books do help stave off Consumer's Disease, which many of us have. And the great classics are permanently readable! Lately I have been tearing up over Little Women, for example -- and I'm a guy! (Prior to yesterday, I was doing my reading on my Nokia N800 and Nokia N810 computers...)

09-22-2009, 05:37 PM	#22
Physics Teacher Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: none	I hate Amazon.com too, but for a different reason Amazon.com is a spammer. Please pass along to everyone you know. Amazon.com has a subsidiary named Amazon Web Services, Elastic Compute Cloud, EC2, EU or http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/ . They claim that they are providing a service where businesses can contact customers. In fact, they are a collection of spammer-makers. A spammer opens an account with them and then spams everyone they can possibly find. When told they have a spammer customer, their response is to wait for 4 days, then tell you that you were correct, their customer was a spammer, and then tell you they have closed the account down. That is correct; they did close that account down. The spammer then opened a new account, under a different name, and continued to spam everyone they could find. Amazon.com’s response to being told their customer was still spamming was to set up a web-based email system asking the customer to provide esoteric information that only a network administrator would have easy access to. In other words, they give the people that report spam the run-around. This is to delay the response time before they are forced to tell their customer, “Darn it! That guy that you are spamming (chortle, chortle) has jumped through every hoop I’ve set for him. It’s time to close your account and open a new one (snicker, snicker) in another name.” They are just as much a crook as the spammer. Do not do business with a spammer like Amazon.com

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08-03-2009, 02:52 PM	#16
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	I haven't bought any books that I already own in paper. I guess it's because I rarely re-read books and the few that I do are actually in my library's ebook collection or the Public Domain. I do buy a lot of books but I only buy when I want to read them. I get the free sample first and only buy the book when I've read it. I spend far less on books now than I used to. Buying the book at the end of the sample is so quick and easy, I don't really find a need to buy in advance. I generally have good Whispernet coverage so I've only done that when I was going out of the country. I've never really had the urge to build collections of things. I know many do and that influences their purchasing decisions in electronic media as well as physical items. With physical books I can see the appeal of having a vast collection on the shelves to look at. They're a great conversation piece when friends visit. You talk about things you've both read or learn new things about each other's tastes. Plus I loved when a friend spotted an interesting looking book on my shelves and I could lend it to them. Since I don't get that with digital media, I'm less likely to buy speculatively or to have a complete collection. I stopped buying CDs years ago and only bought the songs I wanted after I'd listened to them. I'm the same way with books now.

08-03-2009, 03:32 PM	#17
pboss Evangelist Posts: 408 Karma: 646 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: none	Yeah, Amazon does that. That's their business policy and that's why they operate at very small margins. But not small enough that they couldn't afford Zappos.

09-22-2009, 05:40 PM	#24
daffy4u I'm Super Kindle-icious Posts: 6,734 Karma: 2434103 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Drive, Calinadia Candafornia Device: KDXG, KT, Oasis	Now you have become a spammer.

09-22-2009, 05:42 PM	#25
Physics Teacher Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: none	I know daffy4u, but this information needs to get out. I have been spammed for over 15 times in the past week by the same individual. This individual, God only knows who, has moved from web-hoster to web-hoster until he found Amazon.com cloud services, and now he's found a home. Amazon.com refused to do their civic duty. The only recourse an individual consumer has is to hound Amazon.com until they do what a quality merchant does - patrol their site to make sure that only quality suppliers represent them. They have refused to do so after numerous warnings. They need to feel consumer's pain and stop the immoral, if not illegal, activities done from their website. Sorry this is so long and off topic, but I found this through a Google search, and I am simply trying to get my life back.

09-22-2009, 05:44 PM	#26
Physics Teacher Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: none	Like I said, sorry to bother you

09-22-2009, 05:48 PM	#28
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	<Moderator> Physics Teacher, I understand your annoyance, and I also understand why this information would be important to share, however, posting it once has accomplished that aim, making two identical posts, in the same thread, in the space of less than ten minutes, is, at best, overkill. Unless you wish to see your important, must-share information deleted as spam, and yourself banned from MobileRead as a spammer (oh, the irony), please accept my suggestion as a Moderator that you cool it just a bit. </Moderator>

09-28-2009, 05:11 PM	#29
hal_9000 Enthusiast Posts: 34 Karma: 84 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Orlando FL Device: Kindle 2	thank god i still read about as fast as a third grader. heaven forbid i speed up, and spend more than $10 a month. does anyone know if there is a way to ensure one's reading speed stays slow? keep the contrast low? throw out your glasses? but seriously, i've only spent $20 in the first 2 weeks, i'll read a book a fortnight or a week at the most (small one).

10-15-2009, 09:18 PM	#30
jaxx6166 Wizard Posts: 1,222 Karma: 769316 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eternal summer Device: 350, iPad, PW	It's funny that I signed on today to see the thread I started so many months ago bumped up by a spammer. Mostly, it's funny because I was thinking again about how evil Amazon is. I promised myself there would never be a backlog on my Kindle, like I have on my 700. So - what do I do to keep that promise? I bought 5 more books. Actually - I think I bought more than 4. And I find Dune getting farther and farther down along the list (I like to keep my library arranged in order that I plan on reading the books) And I don't even want to consider all the free books that I have. I think SuvuDu is latin for Devil. (Are you reading this, Shawn!?) So, with that said, here's to: Canticle, Song of the Fell Hammer, The Red Wolf Conspiracy(Which I also bought for the 700 d'oh), A Darkness Forged in Fire (Same thing!), The Warded Man, The Mirrored Heavens, Night of Knives, Gardens of the Moon, Dragons of the Highlord Skies, Dragons of the Hourglass Mage, Patient Zero, Bones of the Dragon, The Well of Ascention, Elric, Dune, and Boneshaker which have now ended up in my backlog!! D'oh!!!!!!

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