Colonel Gaddafi

[DixieGal]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

Greece.

Precisely!

OK, cool. When you put someone on the "ignore" list, it shows that they posted something, but the message is blank.

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by DixieGal

This, from a guy who cites wikipedia. Good luck finding something to read that paints that old terrorist as a sympathetic character, unless, of course, you enjoy reading anti-US inflammatory rhetoric. I had no idea you were prejudiced or jealous against the greatest nation and culture that the world has ever produced. I consider your comments about my country and DesertGrandma to be very insulting. Don't talk to me anymore, I am putting you on my "ignore" list.

hey, hey, hey. let's all calm down a bit, okay ? dg and DG, please, there is no need to interpret someone's interest in a historical figure who has, regardless of your political alliances, indiscutably played a major role in world politics, as any form of disrespect or aggression. there's no reason to get overheated. i am sure ahi is not trying to insult anyone ; i don't think it's necessary to take his reading matter to heart.

[ahi]

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

i am sure ahi is not trying to insult anyone ; i don't think it's necessary to take his reading matter to heart.

Very right.

Although I would add, that I have been insulted several times in this thread already and, despite it, have remained fairly civil.

- Ahi

[ahi]

Originally Posted by DixieGal

OK, cool. When you put someone on the "ignore" list, it shows that they posted something, but the message is blank.

Ah! The delight of never having one's preconceptions challenged by the same person more than once.

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by ahi

Very right.

Although I would add, that I have been insulted several times in this thread already and, despite it, have remained fairly civil.

- Ahi

i appreciate your civility.

[DixieGal]

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

hey, hey, hey. let's all calm down a bit, okay ? dg and DG, please, there is no need to interpret someone's interest in a historical figure who has, regardless of your political alliances, indiscutably played a major role in world politics, as any form of disrespect or aggression. there's no reason to get overheated. i am sure ahi is not trying to insult anyone ; i don't think it's necessary to take his reading matter to heart.

That doesn't excuse what he said about the US, dg, and me. I'm flabbergasted that someone who cites wikipedia as a source would dare to call me ignorant. And I'm sick and tired of people thinking it is OK to denigrate my country. Our city is mourning right now for a soldier and young dad who was killed in the wars, fighting to take down terrorists long enough for some semblence of freedom to take root. It is not a good day for Ahi to spout that kind of crap.

[Moejoe]

Originally Posted by ahi

Anybody can recommend me some good books on Colonel Gaddafi? Written by somebody not slavishly devoted to the US party line, ideally.

And I wouldn't mind it if it was available in eBook form. If that's a problem, perhaps somebody with some pull with the Lybian leadership could suggest that they release it as a DRM-free ePub?

Thanks!

- Ahi

This looks like it might be what you're looking for http://www.amazon.com/My-Vision-Muam.../dp/1844541290

No ebook I'm afraid

This breezy but well-researched history takes a not-so-critical look at a man described by Nelson Mandela as "one of the greatest revolutionary legends of our times" and by President Ronald Reagan as "the mad dog of the Middle East."

[ahi]

Originally Posted by DixieGal

That doesn't excuse what he said about the US, dg, and me. I'm flabbergasted that someone who cites wikipedia as a source would dare to call me ignorant. And I'm sick and tired of people thinking it is OK to denigrate my country. Our city is mourning right now for a soldier and young dad who was killed in the wars, fighting to take down terrorists long enough for some semblence of freedom to take root. It is not a good day for Ahi to spout that kind of crap.

Wow...



Just... wow...

Originally Posted by Moejoe

This looks like it might be what you're looking for http://www.amazon.com/My-Vision-Muam.../dp/1844541290

No ebook I'm afraid

Thanks! I don't suppose you read it, Moe?

[Moejoe]

The above link was for the US Amazon, but I noticed you were in Canada, so here's the Canadian Link:

http://www.amazon.ca/My-Vision-Conve...4660785&sr=1-3

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by DixieGal

That doesn't excuse what he said about the US, dg, and me. I'm flabbergasted that someone who cites wikipedia as a source would dare to call me ignorant. And I'm sick and tired of people thinking it is OK to denigrate my country. Our city is mourning right now for a soldier and young dad who was killed in the wars, fighting to take down terrorists long enough for some semblence of freedom to take root. It is not a good day for Ahi to spout that kind of crap.

DG, i understand and respect your feelings, but i sincerely think that there may have been some overreaction about what seems to be an understandably touchy subject. ahi would like to read about a topic ; he doesn't want to have a biased account from the perspective of one of the main protagonists in the story. that is all he said. it seems that his interest in the subject was enough to spark a flame, which again, may be understandable given some context, but still, i would appreciate it if you could keep in mind how much we all (including you, i know !) really cherish the tolerant and respectful ambiance that we try to cultivate here. you don't have to agree with him or have any interest in reading about this subject. but i do hope you can take a step back and realise that merely having a different perspective doesn't imply any disrespect to you personally nor your country, and allow for other perspectives than your own as well. i have seen you do this elsewhere ; i am sure you can do it here too.

[ahi]

Originally Posted by Moejoe

The above link was for the US Amazon, but I noticed you were in Canada, so here's the Canadian Link

Thanks, Moe. Do you know what the "Prophet" designation is about on the book cover? That's a moniker I've not seen before applied to him.

- Ahi

[Moejoe]

Originally Posted by ahi

Thanks, Moe. Do you know what the "Prophet" designation is about on the book cover? That's a moniker I've not seen before applied to him.

- Ahi

I think it was applied 'post-revolution', although I couldn't be sure. It's a long time since I read about the Libyan uprising. I think it may have to do with a lot of the things he said about US / UK Imperialism early on and how that came to pass, although don't quote me on that one

[ahi]

Originally Posted by Moejoe

I think it was applied 'post-revolution', although I couldn't be sure. It's a long time since I read about the Libyan uprising. I think it may have to do with a lot of the things he said about US / UK Imperialism early on and how that came to pass, although don't quote me on that one

Interesting! Thanks.

- Ahi

[Moejoe]

Originally Posted by ahi

Interesting! Thanks.

- Ahi

No need for thanks, just give that praise to my father... he was a committed communist and worked in Libya when I was a kid. He was very impressed (at that time) with Gadaffi and would often tell me and my sister stories about the Libyan uprising (along with stories about Cuba, China, etc)

[ahi]

Originally Posted by Moejoe

No need for thanks, just give that praise to my father... he was a committed communist and worked in Libya when I was a kid. He was very impressed (at that time) with Gadaffi and would often tell me and my sister stories about the Libyan uprising (along with stories about Cuba, China, etc)

How unusual! If you ever write about your father/your childhood, you can count on having me as a curious reader.

- Ahi