Windows 7 RC runs Photoshop CS3 on Hello Kitty Netbook - Page 2

brecklundin · 06-07-2009, 09:45 PM

hahahaha...square corners, single click, etc....it's funny how set in our ways we all get. I am with sirbruce in that I really am comfy with my XP layout and moving to a new UI, wel, it might simply be too traumatic. hahaha...still I have lusted after Aero on a multi-touch panel for a long time.

wodin: I am the same way anymore. I can hardly recall some of the workarounds and navs to adjust features even on XP, which we have pretty much all been the same since Win98 (many since Win95). I am going to be leap-frogging over Vista, never even got my free copy from HP with my last laptop purchase. Just did not want to fiddle with it. And that is NOT me, but anymore I don't want to deal with the nuts and bolts of an OS...I just want it to run the apps I have and need and otherwise stay out of my way.

kinda of ashamed to admit this, but I doubt I could write a decent .bat file anymore. Just the basics no conditionals or anything, I have totally forgotten it over the years and I have been in this since before the CP/M years.

tuna: yeah, really, unless the room is well lit reading on the Kindle (as well as other eink displays of today) is a very difficult thing for me. I do not own or read any old faded paperbacks anymore. I donated the last of my paperbacks to our annual library book sale fund raiser years ago. I have not read anything but ebooks since. well, I have a few books that were not out as ebooks then, or now for that matter, but nope, nothing.

I have my reference books which are all printed on nice actual white paper and that's it.

As for reading on the 3Qi display not being any better, ya best visit the video's posted today with side by side comparison's. Over all in marginal lighting the 3Qi is indeed no better than the eink on the K1 BUT, and this is important, there is the middle mode with a partially back lit display which does turn the background white providing all the contrast needed. Nothing eink can do to compete there. Trust me I am rooting for eink to solve these issues, but they won't in a time frame for when I want a reading device that also can be used to get some work done. The 3Qi seems to give everything I want in the here and now.

And what I guess we can call "mode 2" on the 3Qi should be perfect for reading in bed w/o disturbing the person next to you. On eink even the light wedge or dongle can keep that person awake or wake them. But, I am confident some bright star somewhere will develop a tech to make some evolution of eink low light readable...within the next decade. But by then will eink even be relevant other than a niche market?

wodin · 06-08-2009, 02:13 AM

I was hauling my wife around to garden stores today, and stuck my N800 (backlight LCD) in my pocket for those interminable waits while she tries to decide what she wants to grow this week. Most of the time we were outside or in a covered area. Shoulda brought my jetBook! I was running around trying to find the darkest shade there was that still had a little breeze.

MSFT_GlenF · 06-08-2009, 10:23 AM

brecklundin,

For all of the up to date information on all things W7 related, including Netbook issues, it’s best to view them directly at the Windows 7 support forum. The site will also give you all sorts of useful information, such as the “what’s new in the RC” feed….or you can also you use talkingaboutwindows.com as an additional resource
Thanks,
Glen

brecklundin · 06-09-2009, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wodin

I was hauling my wife around to garden stores today, and stuck my N800 (backlight LCD) in my pocket for those interminable waits while she tries to decide what she wants to grow this week. Most of the time we were outside or in a covered area. Shoulda brought my jetBook! I was running around trying to find the darkest shade there was that still had a little breeze.

Man, I know exactly that feeling, having made the same mistake more than once. So, I started grabbing the Clie as well just in case. And since none of my books are on the Kindle I never bother to think of it because, well, I am just keep my hands off MY Kindle because, well, it, er, keeps life simpler.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSFT_GlenF

brecklundin,

For all of the up to date information on all things W7 related, including Netbook issues, it’s best to view them directly at the Windows 7 support forum. The site will also give you all sorts of useful information, such as the “what’s new in the RC” feed….or you can also you use talkingaboutwindows.com as an additional resource
Thanks,
Glen

Hey Glen...thanks for the scoop. Will certainly check it out.

Modern Bear · 06-09-2009, 04:57 AM

I have used every Microsoft OS going back to DOS 3 except for Windows NT. I have to say I liked Windows 2000 and XP the best because they just worked. My wife got a laptop half a year ago with Vista 64 on it and I HATE it with a passion. It takes so much longer to boot up than my XP machine and her laptop is pretty decent. Defrags take forever to the point I don't want to do it anymore, which begs the question of why they changed the defragger tool from the one with XP which worked fine. It's so bloated and full of junk neither my wife or I want. I even spent a lot of time disabling various features to free up more memory, including Aero (yes I do like the Windows classic look better after using it since Win 95) and still it gobbles memory like crazy. I have about the same amount of free memory with my 2 GB desktop machine running XP as the laptop with 4 GB running Vista 64 does, which is sad.

I must admit I have heard glowing reports about Windows 7 over the last few months and it's tempting. I haven't bothered to get the release candidate yet though because I'd have to buy another hard drive to put it on and quite frankly I'm a bit lazy about having to install a bunch of stuff again

I might upgrade to it when it actually comes out but I do wonder what's the point? My XP machine runs great and I haven't gotten a crash in a long time (knocks on wood). I would certainly put Windows 7 on a new machine when I decide to build the next one. What new features besides it running better than Vista will I have to look forward to then?

daffy4u · 06-09-2009, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirbruce

My one complaint about Windows 7 is no ability to select the Windows "classic" look and feel. I love my old blue and grey square borders!

I've found the way you get the classic look. If you select "adjust for best performance" from the "visual effects" tab of "performance options", you'll end up with the ugly blocky classic look. Yuck! You can add features one at a time to get the look you want.

sirbruce · 06-09-2009, 01:29 PM

Interesting, thanks daffy!

Shaggy · 06-09-2009, 02:45 PM

I'll refrain from getting into the good/bad debate about Vista since it's not really on topic for Mobileread. However, I will just say that I find it a fascinating example of how closely customer perception can be tied to a product name.

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06-07-2009, 09:45 PM	#16
brecklundin Banned Posts: 1,906 Karma: 15348 Join Date: Jun 2007 Device: mine	hahahaha...square corners, single click, etc....it's funny how set in our ways we all get. I am with sirbruce in that I really am comfy with my XP layout and moving to a new UI, wel, it might simply be too traumatic. hahaha...still I have lusted after Aero on a multi-touch panel for a long time. wodin: I am the same way anymore. I can hardly recall some of the workarounds and navs to adjust features even on XP, which we have pretty much all been the same since Win98 (many since Win95). I am going to be leap-frogging over Vista, never even got my free copy from HP with my last laptop purchase. Just did not want to fiddle with it. And that is NOT me, but anymore I don't want to deal with the nuts and bolts of an OS...I just want it to run the apps I have and need and otherwise stay out of my way. kinda of ashamed to admit this, but I doubt I could write a decent .bat file anymore. Just the basics no conditionals or anything, I have totally forgotten it over the years and I have been in this since before the CP/M years. tuna: yeah, really, unless the room is well lit reading on the Kindle (as well as other eink displays of today) is a very difficult thing for me. I do not own or read any old faded paperbacks anymore. I donated the last of my paperbacks to our annual library book sale fund raiser years ago. I have not read anything but ebooks since. well, I have a few books that were not out as ebooks then, or now for that matter, but nope, nothing. I have my reference books which are all printed on nice actual white paper and that's it. As for reading on the 3Qi display not being any better, ya best visit the video's posted today with side by side comparison's. Over all in marginal lighting the 3Qi is indeed no better than the eink on the K1 BUT, and this is important, there is the middle mode with a partially back lit display which does turn the background white providing all the contrast needed. Nothing eink can do to compete there. Trust me I am rooting for eink to solve these issues, but they won't in a time frame for when I want a reading device that also can be used to get some work done. The 3Qi seems to give everything I want in the here and now. And what I guess we can call "mode 2" on the 3Qi should be perfect for reading in bed w/o disturbing the person next to you. On eink even the light wedge or dongle can keep that person awake or wake them. But, I am confident some bright star somewhere will develop a tech to make some evolution of eink low light readable...within the next decade. But by then will eink even be relevant other than a niche market?

06-08-2009, 02:13 AM	#17
wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	I was hauling my wife around to garden stores today, and stuck my N800 (backlight LCD) in my pocket for those interminable waits while she tries to decide what she wants to grow this week. Most of the time we were outside or in a covered area. Shoulda brought my jetBook! I was running around trying to find the darkest shade there was that still had a little breeze.

06-08-2009, 10:23 AM	#18
MSFT_GlenF Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: none	brecklundin, For all of the up to date information on all things W7 related, including Netbook issues, it’s best to view them directly at the Windows 7 support forum. The site will also give you all sorts of useful information, such as the “what’s new in the RC” feed….or you can also you use talkingaboutwindows.com as an additional resource Thanks, Glen

06-09-2009, 04:57 AM	#20
Modern Bear Member Posts: 17 Karma: 48 Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York, USA Device: Sony PRS 505 & 700	I have used every Microsoft OS going back to DOS 3 except for Windows NT. I have to say I liked Windows 2000 and XP the best because they just worked. My wife got a laptop half a year ago with Vista 64 on it and I HATE it with a passion. It takes so much longer to boot up than my XP machine and her laptop is pretty decent. Defrags take forever to the point I don't want to do it anymore, which begs the question of why they changed the defragger tool from the one with XP which worked fine. It's so bloated and full of junk neither my wife or I want. I even spent a lot of time disabling various features to free up more memory, including Aero (yes I do like the Windows classic look better after using it since Win 95) and still it gobbles memory like crazy. I have about the same amount of free memory with my 2 GB desktop machine running XP as the laptop with 4 GB running Vista 64 does, which is sad. I must admit I have heard glowing reports about Windows 7 over the last few months and it's tempting. I haven't bothered to get the release candidate yet though because I'd have to buy another hard drive to put it on and quite frankly I'm a bit lazy about having to install a bunch of stuff again I might upgrade to it when it actually comes out but I do wonder what's the point? My XP machine runs great and I haven't gotten a crash in a long time (knocks on wood). I would certainly put Windows 7 on a new machine when I decide to build the next one. What new features besides it running better than Vista will I have to look forward to then?

06-09-2009, 01:29 PM	#22
sirbruce Provocateur Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS	Interesting, thanks daffy!

06-09-2009, 02:45 PM	#23
Shaggy Wizard Posts: 4,293 Karma: 529619 Join Date: May 2007 Device: iRex iLiad, DR800SG	I'll refrain from getting into the good/bad debate about Vista since it's not really on topic for Mobileread. However, I will just say that I find it a fascinating example of how closely customer perception can be tied to a product name.

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