Ebook reader with mobipocket dictionary lookup - Page 2

HarryT · 03-20-2009, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tompe

I understood it. For the two dictionaries I use it works for different tense and for adverb and so on. So I think it depends how the dictionary is coded.

The Chambers dictionary I have is well-nigh perfect for "inflected" forms of words. Eg, it'll find not only, say, "fight", but "fights", "fought", "fighting", and so on.

Sweetpea · 03-20-2009, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bernardpar

Hi

I bought my first ebook reader - EBOOKMAN - 8 years ago and I was more then happy, a few years later I got a Dell Axim and when it died, I got Hx4700 with its huge 4 inch screen

, which I am still using.

Obviously I would prefer to have a reading device with a bigger screen - 6 or 8 incher would be prefect. I have been using Mobipocket with its dictionaries and instant look up option for years. I know I would not buy any e-ink reader device which does not have that feature well implemented.

Hence my questions :
Which ebook reader has the quickest lookup option ?

I know Cybook has similar option - but it seems that it takes ages before you get to the word you dont know,then a new dictionary page opens, and then you need to get back to the page you are just reading, I know Kindle lookup is quicker but I live in Europe. Is there any device on the market which would fit my needs or I need to wait until 3rd generation of ebook rearders hit the market (txtr, kindle 3.0 Europe edition , bebook 2 etc).

When I think of my old Ebookman I cannot understand why it is so hard to implement such an indispensable (at least for me) function.

Regards

Bernard

I'd say, wait till the next generation of readers hit the market. I am personally waiting for the BeBook 2, mainly because it has touchscreen. I just don't even want to imagine how I have to highlight a certain word with buttons only...

HarryT · 03-20-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

I'd say, wait till the next generation of readers hit the market. I am personally waiting for the BeBook 2, mainly because it has touchscreen. I just don't even want to imagine how I have to highlight a certain word with buttons only...

Have you actually tried it? Believe me, the CyBook's method is eminently practical.

ErwinOtten · 03-20-2009, 10:11 AM

Not to say the cybooks lookup function could not be improved (the two simplest points being a dedicated lookup-button and to position on the last word you looked up (if you're still on the same page)), but it is very effective and fast.
You have to put your dictionaries in the root-folder and the rest of your books in sub-folders and then you don't have any problem with the speed.

Sweetpea · 03-20-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Have you actually tried it? Believe me, the CyBook's method is eminently practical.

No, I haven't... But I presume you must set the focus on a word by using the buttons on the device and then pressing some sort of "ok" button.

I've been reading on a touchscreen enabled device from the start. So, I can wait for a touchscreen enabled e-ink device for a few months more.

HarryT · 03-20-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

No, I haven't... But I presume you must set the focus on a word by using the buttons on the device and then pressing some sort of "ok" button.

Yes, that's exactly it. The procedure is:

- Display the menu.
- Select "Lookup Mode". This enables a "word highlight" cursor.
- Use the 4-way nav control to move the cursor up, down, left, or right.
- When the correct word is highlighted, press the centre of the nav-control.

It takes only a few seconds.

arc · 03-21-2009, 01:43 PM

In the past I have used, Palm and WinCE,but always Mobi. So I bought the cybook fo this reason. works in a very similar way to a hand held, but slower and much longer battery life.
All my past devices have been touch screen, so I really wanted a reader that did not have a touch screen, it is really annoying when the screen is touched in error and the page changes, or some other function happens.

If touch screen could be disabled then that would be ok, but some people would then complain it takes to many actions to activate it again.

I have been using mobipocket for over 10 years, yes it's been around that long and I have been waiting for a reader with a larger screen.

I have collins on my cybook, also on my palm treo 680 where I also have mobi installed.

It is quicker to look up a word on the palm, as I can use the touch screen and it has a faster processor.
On the cybook I have to click down through each word, until I come to the word I want.
For me this is quick enough and do not find it to be a problem.

A book reader is intended to be light and have a long battery life.
A faster processor will need more power and a larger battery.

So you have to decide which you want. For me it was the cybook because it is light, easy to read and has long battery life and most important came with mobi.

If you want something fast, don't wait for any new book readers (I have been waiting for the cybook for 10 years) , get a hand held. WinCE or Palm, you can run mobi on both.
On ebay you can get these very cheap. Older Palm include sony clie.
These have very nice screens, the black and white ones have long battery life for a hand held (you can also read in the dark), and they have a touch screen and fast processor, so looking up words will be as quick as my treo.

Hope this helps
Regards
ARC

Abelturd · 03-25-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Arc

A faster processor will need more power and a larger battery.

Faster processor doesn't necessarily mean greater power consumption, all parameters of processors evolve, not just clock speed.

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Originally Posted by Arc

If you want something fast, don't wait for any new book readers (I have been waiting for the cybook for 10 years) , get a hand held. WinCE or Palm, you can run mobi on both.

If you want the device mostly for reading, don't ever buy anything with an lcd screen. I made that mistake. People around you will keep on droning that eink reader is a single purpose device, that you would be better off with a multifunctional handheld. That's nonsense in my experience. Since I bought cybook my pda is catching dust on the shelf most of the time.
It's clumsy interface what makes eink reader slow , if you combine touchscreen interface with a quality dictionary you get the device of your dreams (and mine). You just need to wait a few more months for the touchscreen devices to make it on the market.

arc · 03-29-2009, 05:55 PM

[QUOTE=Abelturd;407209]Faster processor doesn't necessarily mean greater power consumption, all parameters of processors evolve, not just clock speed.

Yes a fast processor 100% means more power consumtion. Even as processors evolve, a slower clock speed of the same generation will have longer battery life. If this was not the case, book readers would all have fast CPUs, they do not.
ARC

Abelturd · 03-30-2009, 08:51 AM

What I meant was that newer generation processors with higher clock speeds might have lower (equal) energy consumption than older generation processors with lower clock speeds. For one thing the circuits are getting smaller.

pilotbob · 03-30-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by arc

Yes a fast processor 100% means more power consumtion.

Actually, I just read about Intel release a new generation of the chips that use less power...

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/29/i...mption-to-65w/

Granted they are the same speed, but this means that faster chips could draw the same power as the slower chips.

BOb

arc · 04-15-2009, 11:05 AM

Hi All,
65 watts is high, many mobile devices use processors that use power measured in milliwatts.

Intel is a few years away from producing a CPU that uses such a small amount of power. ARM CPU's tend to use power in Milliwatts.
Intel is good, but there core market is supplying powerful cpu's

For a book reader battery life has got to be king, as in fact it was in the original game boy.
Was the game boy the best hand held, no way, but it had the best battery life hands down and of course any device has to be light.
So not only does it have to have long battery life, but a small battery.

Perhaps some one will produce a reader with a built in solar panel to recharge on the fly.

I held off buying a book reader because I wanted my reader to have a back light. I decided this was not going to arrive soon, so bought the Cybook, which I love.

Regards
ARC

thorn · 04-23-2009, 08:34 PM

at present, e-ink will always be slower to change/refresh than an lcd. i love my dell axim, but in the end the wifi killed the battery too fast. i now have an ipod touch as my backup device. it's a pretty darn good e-book reader, for a music player. of course, reading burns juice way faster than listening to anything. but still, it's not bad.

my eyes and i far prefer the e-ink reader, though.

03-21-2009, 01:43 PM	#22
arc Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: ct19 5ab	cybook look up. In the past I have used, Palm and WinCE,but always Mobi. So I bought the cybook fo this reason. works in a very similar way to a hand held, but slower and much longer battery life. All my past devices have been touch screen, so I really wanted a reader that did not have a touch screen, it is really annoying when the screen is touched in error and the page changes, or some other function happens. If touch screen could be disabled then that would be ok, but some people would then complain it takes to many actions to activate it again. I have been using mobipocket for over 10 years, yes it's been around that long and I have been waiting for a reader with a larger screen. I have collins on my cybook, also on my palm treo 680 where I also have mobi installed. It is quicker to look up a word on the palm, as I can use the touch screen and it has a faster processor. On the cybook I have to click down through each word, until I come to the word I want. For me this is quick enough and do not find it to be a problem. A book reader is intended to be light and have a long battery life. A faster processor will need more power and a larger battery. So you have to decide which you want. For me it was the cybook because it is light, easy to read and has long battery life and most important came with mobi. If you want something fast, don't wait for any new book readers (I have been waiting for the cybook for 10 years) , get a hand held. WinCE or Palm, you can run mobi on both. On ebay you can get these very cheap. Older Palm include sony clie. These have very nice screens, the black and white ones have long battery life for a hand held (you can also read in the dark), and they have a touch screen and fast processor, so looking up words will be as quick as my treo. Hope this helps Regards ARC Last edited by arc; 03-21-2009 at 01:46 PM.

04-15-2009, 11:05 AM	#27
arc Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: ct19 5ab	milliwatts Hi All, 65 watts is high, many mobile devices use processors that use power measured in milliwatts. Intel is a few years away from producing a CPU that uses such a small amount of power. ARM CPU's tend to use power in Milliwatts. Intel is good, but there core market is supplying powerful cpu's For a book reader battery life has got to be king, as in fact it was in the original game boy. Was the game boy the best hand held, no way, but it had the best battery life hands down and of course any device has to be light. So not only does it have to have long battery life, but a small battery. Perhaps some one will produce a reader with a built in solar panel to recharge on the fly. I held off buying a book reader because I wanted my reader to have a back light. I decided this was not going to arrive soon, so bought the Cybook, which I love. Regards ARC

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03-20-2009, 10:11 AM	#19
ErwinOtten Addict Posts: 338 Karma: 444 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The Netherlands Device: Cybook G3	Not to say the cybooks lookup function could not be improved (the two simplest points being a dedicated lookup-button and to position on the last word you looked up (if you're still on the same page)), but it is very effective and fast. You have to put your dictionaries in the root-folder and the rest of your books in sub-folders and then you don't have any problem with the speed.

03-29-2009, 05:55 PM	#24
arc Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: ct19 5ab	[QUOTE=Abelturd;407209]Faster processor doesn't necessarily mean greater power consumption, all parameters of processors evolve, not just clock speed. Yes a fast processor 100% means more power consumtion. Even as processors evolve, a slower clock speed of the same generation will have longer battery life. If this was not the case, book readers would all have fast CPUs, they do not. ARC

03-30-2009, 08:51 AM	#25
Abelturd Little Fuzzy Soldier Posts: 580 Karma: 5711 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nowhere in particular. Device: cybook gen3, htc hero, ipaq 214	What I meant was that newer generation processors with higher clock speeds might have lower (equal) energy consumption than older generation processors with lower clock speeds. For one thing the circuits are getting smaller.

04-23-2009, 08:34 PM	#28
thorn Connoisseur Posts: 91 Karma: 7940 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: currently: ipod touch	at present, e-ink will always be slower to change/refresh than an lcd. i love my dell axim, but in the end the wifi killed the battery too fast. i now have an ipod touch as my backup device. it's a pretty darn good e-book reader, for a music player. of course, reading burns juice way faster than listening to anything. but still, it's not bad. my eyes and i far prefer the e-ink reader, though.

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