What will you replace your Kindle with. - Page 2

JSWolf · 03-13-2009, 10:33 AM

I did select other. Not because of the wifi, but because if I was to get a new reader, I would want it to have a larger then 6" screen. And since the only option now is iRex, I'll wait to see what happens in 2010. Also, my finances are not good enough yet to purchase another device at the moment. So by 2010, I'll have the money to get this larger screen reader if I want.

RickyMaveety · 03-13-2009, 10:51 AM

I'm an other as well. I'll probably get a couple of Sonys.

daffy4u · 03-13-2009, 11:01 AM

As I've said, I'm not giving up either one of my Kindles BUT I will add to my ebook reader collection. I'm still interested in Boox and Plastic Logic. I'll just have to see where technology takes me.

Alisa · 03-13-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by grooks

Sony 505 and 700

Though if you're fleeing Amazon because of their tight-fisted policy on DRM, do you really want to be supporting Sony? If I replace my Kindles, I'll go with one of the independents.

dmaul1114 · 03-13-2009, 01:22 PM

Right now I just want to read novels, so my K1 is good to go.

I'd replace it down the road when technology improves as we can have basically a touch screen color e-ink (or some new display that's as easy on the eyes) in a tablet device that does books, web browsing, e-mail, PDA etc. etc.

Until then, the Kindle is good for what I need in a reader (leisure reading of novels) so I won't replace it anytime soon barring breaking it.

sigma8 · 03-13-2009, 02:49 PM

Does anyone not think that this might be overreactive? I'm not too surprised that Amazon would be against code that reveals ID #'s that are an important component of its DRM toolset.

It's probably due diligence in legally enforcing their DRM more than a hard line against getting books from other places. They allow non-protected mobi's, certainly. They're not going to complain if you post on how to de-drm mobi's, that's mobipocket's responsibility.

AnemicOak · 03-13-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sigma8

Does anyone not think that this might be overreactive? I'm not too surprised that Amazon would be against code that reveals ID #'s that are an important component of its DRM toolset.

You're right. Amazon overreacted in how they handled things.

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They're not going to complain if you post on how to de-drm mobi's, that's mobipocket's responsibility.

Mobipocket is a part of Amazon.

I don't know if I'll send mine back or not. I've thought about it, but...

Alisa · 03-13-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sigma8

Does anyone not think that this might be overreactive? I'm not too surprised that Amazon would be against code that reveals ID #'s that are an important component of its DRM toolset.

It's probably due diligence in legally enforcing their DRM more than a hard line against getting books from other places. They allow non-protected mobi's, certainly. They're not going to complain if you post on how to de-drm mobi's, that's mobipocket's responsibility.

I think it's mostly about keeping people from stripping DRM from Amazon books which is probably more scary now that there are tons of iPhone and iPod Touch users. This doesn't prevent you from buying books elsewhere and stripping the DRM off. You just need to use the Mobipocket software PID if you don't have your Kindle PID. People have been stripping DRM off of books from other stores and the library and reading them on their Kindles for months. The question remains as to whether Amazon will ever start snooping on our Kindles. So far they haven't. They reserve the right to, however.

AnemicOak · 03-13-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alisa

The question remains as to whether Amazon will ever start snooping on our Kindles. So far they haven't. They reserve the right to, however.

Can one of you point me to the exact place this is stated? I've seen it mentioned a number of times, but never bothered to look into it.

Alisa · 03-13-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Can one of you point me to the exact place this is stated? I've seen it mentioned a number of times, but never bothered to look into it.

Pdurrant linked it here.

Edit: Looks like his link doesn't work. Try this.

Here's a quote:

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Information Received. The Device Software will provide Amazon with data about your Device and its interaction with the Service (such as available memory, up-time, log files and signal strength) and information related to the content on your Device and your use of it (such as automatic bookmarking of the last page read and content deletions from the Device). Annotations, bookmarks, notes, highlights, or similar markings you make in your Device are backed up through the Service. Information we receive is subject to the Amazon.com Privacy Notice.

AnemicOak · 03-13-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Alisa

Pdurrant linked it here.

Edit: Looks like his link doesn't work. Try this.

Thanks, so I guess unless there is something to the contrary in their Privacy Notice (which or course can change) then they can do this. I can't imagine things going well for them if they ever did though.

rhadin · 03-13-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alisa

Though if you're fleeing Amazon because of their tight-fisted policy on DRM, do you really want to be supporting Sony? If I replace my Kindles, I'll go with one of the independents.

The difference is that Sony has opened up our choices by accepting ePub and reflowable PDFs (even if the PDF option isn't the best in the world). So we aren't locked into the Sony store or the Sony format or Sony DRM.

Additionally, Sony can't (at least not yet) access my Reader to see if I have other than Sony DRM material on it. I grant that Sony's DRM is draconian like Amazon's, but Sony doesn't force me to buy books with it and Sony can't snoop.

Renaldo · 03-13-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rhadin

Sony hasn't failed in the U.S. yet lacks Amazon's backing. And Sony has been advertising, often as co-op with local stores, at least in my area of the country.

And now Barnes & Noble has bought Fictionwise. It may be a while before it ramps up, but you can bet B&N won't sit still and cede ebooks to Amazon.

I was going to point this out too. With Borders partnering with Sony, and B&N buying Fictionwise, I don't see Amazon running away with ebooks. If it was just one of them, maybe they wouldn't have much effect. But with both major b&m's having a stake in ebooks and by default, readers, I don't see Amazon and the kindle destroying the market.

PGP_Protector · 03-14-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alisa

I think it's mostly about keeping people from stripping DRM from Amazon books which is probably more scary now that there are tons of iPhone and iPod Touch users. This doesn't prevent you from buying books elsewhere and stripping the DRM off. You just need to use the Mobipocket software PID if you don't have your Kindle PID. People have been stripping DRM off of books from other stores and the library and reading them on their Kindles for months. The question remains as to whether Amazon will ever start snooping on our Kindles. So far they haven't. They reserve the right to, however.

That you know of

Daithi · 03-15-2009, 12:56 AM

I'm not going to replace my Kindle anytime soon. However, I will not buy any ebooks from Amazon for the next month. Plus I was planning on buying a larger screen reader when that becomes available, so you can bet this will be a factor when deciding between a Plastic Logic device and the rumored K3.

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03-13-2009, 10:33 AM	#16
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I did select other. Not because of the wifi, but because if I was to get a new reader, I would want it to have a larger then 6" screen. And since the only option now is iRex, I'll wait to see what happens in 2010. Also, my finances are not good enough yet to purchase another device at the moment. So by 2010, I'll have the money to get this larger screen reader if I want.

03-13-2009, 10:51 AM	#17
RickyMaveety Holy S**T!!! Posts: 5,213 Karma: 108401 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego, California!! Device: Kindle and iPad	I'm an other as well. I'll probably get a couple of Sonys.

03-13-2009, 11:01 AM	#18
daffy4u I'm Super Kindle-icious Posts: 6,734 Karma: 2434103 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Drive, Calinadia Candafornia Device: KDXG, KT, Oasis	As I've said, I'm not giving up either one of my Kindles BUT I will add to my ebook reader collection. I'm still interested in Boox and Plastic Logic. I'll just have to see where technology takes me.

03-13-2009, 01:22 PM	#20
dmaul1114 Wizard Posts: 2,300 Karma: 1121709 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Amazon Kindle 1	Right now I just want to read novels, so my K1 is good to go. I'd replace it down the road when technology improves as we can have basically a touch screen color e-ink (or some new display that's as easy on the eyes) in a tablet device that does books, web browsing, e-mail, PDA etc. etc. Until then, the Kindle is good for what I need in a reader (leisure reading of novels) so I won't replace it anytime soon barring breaking it.

03-13-2009, 02:49 PM	#21
sigma8 Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 136 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Sony PRS-505	Does anyone not think that this might be overreactive? I'm not too surprised that Amazon would be against code that reveals ID #'s that are an important component of its DRM toolset. It's probably due diligence in legally enforcing their DRM more than a hard line against getting books from other places. They allow non-protected mobi's, certainly. They're not going to complain if you post on how to de-drm mobi's, that's mobipocket's responsibility.

03-15-2009, 12:56 AM	#30
Daithi Publishers are evil! Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles	I'm not going to replace my Kindle anytime soon. However, I will not buy any ebooks from Amazon for the next month. Plus I was planning on buying a larger screen reader when that becomes available, so you can bet this will be a factor when deciding between a Plastic Logic device and the rumored K3.

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