Amazon uses DMCA to restrict where you can buy e-books - Page 2

Spartacus2112 · 03-12-2009, 11:08 AM

Wow, I didn't know Mobileread caused damage to Amazon's bottom line! What's next? Only have a forum dedicated to the kindle? Beware the young upstarts!

daffy4u · 03-12-2009, 11:12 AM

I am not a happy duck.

RickyMaveety · 03-12-2009, 11:14 AM

And I am not a happy piggie. Which is why I am no longer recommending the Kindle to anyone.

JSWolf · 03-12-2009, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Exactly. And they only pointed at kindlepid.py in the notice.

Since they never mentioned kindlefix.py, can we have that back with links allover the place to Mobipocket Desktop 6.0?

Flub · 03-12-2009, 11:20 AM

You've got to love it when their first action is a DMCA takedown notice. This is hardly The Pirate Bay. Wouldn't a simple "Please don't link to it" have allowed the site to stay on friendly terms?

Sparrow · 03-12-2009, 11:22 AM

Not being in the US, I'm not affected directly.
But, as an example of Amazon's business practice, this stinks!

I shall be taking my custom elsewhere in future.

zelda_pinwheel · 03-12-2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparrow

Not being in the US, I'm not affected directly.
But, as an example of Amazon's business practice, this stinks!

I shall be taking my custom elsewhere in future.

i suspect a lot of us will (myself included).

Shaggy · 03-12-2009, 11:23 AM

I hadn't heard of kindlepid.py before this. Thank you, Amazon, for making me aware of the existence of this tool. I think it's very nice of them to help spread the word.

hircus · 03-12-2009, 11:25 AM

As Cory Doctorow noted, Amazon is a wonderful company -- until they start selling digital products (music excepted). This is just ridiculous. They strip their customers' first-sale right, they don't even buy back used copies themselves, and now you cannot even buy from another store!

DixieGal · 03-12-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daffy4u

I am not a happy duck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

And I am not a happy piggie. Which is why I am no longer recommending the Kindle to anyone.

I was wondering if you gals had seen this. I still bought DVD's and MP3's from Amazon, even though they didn't sell ebooks I could buy. I wonder if they will even notice that I'm not spending a couple hundred $$$$ per year with them from now on. Probably not, but I don't want to contribute to Big (Bookseller) Brother anymore. It will make my life less convenient to not have them as my primary go-to site for electronics, movies, and music.

JSWolf · 03-12-2009, 11:28 AM

Jeff Bezos has been on TV somewhat plugging the K2. But what he purposely doesn't tell people is that once you get a Kindle, they own you.

My suggestion is that anyone who has a K2, return it since it's less then 30-days and include a letter telling Amazon EXACTLY why you are returning it. Let them know how disgusted you are at this DMCA notice. Maybe they will listen, but probably not. But it cannot hurt to try. Then go out and get a Sony or EZ Reader/BeBook or Gen3 and be happy Amazon no longer owns you.

Flub · 03-12-2009, 11:28 AM

I use mobidedrm to strip the drm off books I buy from Fictionwise so I can use them on my PRS-505. If I couldn't do that then Fictionwise (And the publisher) just wouldn't see any money from me. And yet I'm breaking the law.

It's madness.

DixieGal · 03-12-2009, 11:35 AM

re: Fictionwise

BARNES & NOBLE: Are you taking notes? This is a great example of how to alienate loyal customers.

JSWolf · 03-12-2009, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flub

I use mobidedrm to strip the drm off books I buy from Fictionwise so I can use them on my PRS-505. If I couldn't do that then Fictionwise (And the publisher) just wouldn't see any money from me. And yet I'm breaking the law.

It's madness.

If you had a Kindle, you would be risking Amazon actually seeing the illegal content on your Kindle.

Wario · 03-12-2009, 11:44 AM

I think it fair for Amazon just to request that. If was Sony they just send their legal team down, even if they can't win, but they make the fourms oweners pay.

03-12-2009, 11:08 AM	#16
Spartacus2112 Evangelist Posts: 468 Karma: 1147 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lawn Giland Device: Kindle 3 Wifi	Wow, I didn't know Mobileread caused damage to Amazon's bottom line! What's next? Only have a forum dedicated to the kindle? Beware the young upstarts! Last edited by Spartacus2112; 03-12-2009 at 11:09 AM. Reason: more

03-12-2009, 11:28 AM	#26
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 78,914 Karma: 143095300 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Jeff Bezos has been on TV somewhat plugging the K2. But what he purposely doesn't tell people is that once you get a Kindle, they own you. My suggestion is that anyone who has a K2, return it since it's less then 30-days and include a letter telling Amazon EXACTLY why you are returning it. Let them know how disgusted you are at this DMCA notice. Maybe they will listen, but probably not. But it cannot hurt to try. Then go out and get a Sony or EZ Reader/BeBook or Gen3 and be happy Amazon no longer owns you. Last edited by JSWolf; 03-12-2009 at 11:31 AM.

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RickyMaveety Holy S**T!!! Posts: 5,213 Karma: 108401 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego, California!! Device: Kindle and iPad	And I am not a happy piggie. Which is why I am no longer recommending the Kindle to anyone.

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Flub Groupie Posts: 164 Karma: 70995 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom Device: iPhone, PRS-505, K2i, iPad 64GB+3G, K3, Nexus S	You've got to love it when their first action is a DMCA takedown notice. This is hardly The Pirate Bay. Wouldn't a simple "Please don't link to it" have allowed the site to stay on friendly terms?

03-12-2009, 11:22 AM	#21
Sparrow Wizard Posts: 4,395 Karma: 1358132 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Device: Palm TX, CyBook Gen3	Not being in the US, I'm not affected directly. But, as an example of Amazon's business practice, this stinks! I shall be taking my custom elsewhere in future.

03-12-2009, 11:23 AM	#23
Shaggy Wizard Posts: 4,293 Karma: 529619 Join Date: May 2007 Device: iRex iLiad, DR800SG	I hadn't heard of kindlepid.py before this. Thank you, Amazon, for making me aware of the existence of this tool. I think it's very nice of them to help spread the word.

03-12-2009, 11:25 AM	#24
hircus Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Nokia N810	As Cory Doctorow noted, Amazon is a wonderful company -- until they start selling digital products (music excepted). This is just ridiculous. They strip their customers' first-sale right, they don't even buy back used copies themselves, and now you cannot even buy from another store!

03-12-2009, 11:35 AM	#28
DixieGal Hi There! Posts: 7,473 Karma: 2930523 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Device: iPad	re: Fictionwise BARNES & NOBLE: Are you taking notes? This is a great example of how to alienate loyal customers.

03-12-2009, 11:44 AM	#30
Wario Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 11 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Device: Sony PRS-505	I think it fair for Amazon just to request that. If was Sony they just send their legal team down, even if they can't win, but they make the fourms oweners pay.

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