Kindle 2 has a spot for a SIM card - Page 2

kilofox · 02-24-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Engadget typed the right thing .... they said "SIM". It would have been insane of Amazon to have space for an SD card and not provide access to it.

Not having access to a SIM card is not quite the same thing. A different SIM card installed might, for example, make the Kindle Whispernet useable on European phone systems. So, they might install a SIM in advance of selling a K2 in a new market.

A SIM is a smaller card, but I could tell from the context of the article that they weren't talking about SD. I probably would have bought one if they had SD.

I agree.... I think this points to a euro version of the Kindle down the road.

Ervserver · 02-24-2009, 08:32 PM

battery is 3.7 V, 1530 mAh lithium polymer....hmmm same as Kindle I

desertgrandma · 02-24-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ervserver

battery is 3.7 V, 1530 mAh lithium polymer....hmmm same as Kindle I

If this is true, how is it 'better'? Does the K2 use less power?

RickyMaveety · 02-24-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kilofox

I agree.... I think this points to a euro version of the Kindle down the road.

Oh crap .... your signature almost had me slapping my laptop screen!!

RickyMaveety · 02-24-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

If this is true, how is it 'better'? Does the K2 use less power?

Well, you know .... 25 percent battery life improvement is not that much of a jump.

desertgrandma · 02-24-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Well, you know .... 25 percent battery life improvement is not that much of a jump.

Okay,..........then why didn't they make it user replaceable and why are they going to charge you $59 to replace it plus shipping both ways after the first year?

RickyMaveety · 02-24-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Okay,..........then why didn't they make it user replaceable and why are they going to charge you $59 to replace it plus shipping both ways after the first year?

They didn't make it user replaceable because that's one of the things you sacrifice when you make the product that thin. I'm sure there were two thoughts with regard to changing the battery .... 1. if we have the user send it in, we'll make more money (I call this the Apple model) and 2. if we let the user change the battery, you just know they are going to break this thing.

desertgrandma · 02-24-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

They didn't make it user replaceable because that's one of the things you sacrifice when you make the product that thin. I'm sure there were two thoughts with regard to changing the battery .... 1. if we have the user send it in, we'll make more money (I call this the Apple model) and 2. if we let the user change the battery, you just know they are going to break this thing.

ppfffttttt! Its a control issue, plain and simple.

Ervserver · 02-24-2009, 08:58 PM

that darned power hungry memory card slot

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

If this is true, how is it 'better'? Does the K2 use less power?

detacht69 · 02-24-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ervserver

that darned power hungry memory card slot

I would think the more powerful processor would counteract that

Lemurion · 02-25-2009, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by detacht69

I would think the more powerful processor would counteract that

Actually it's relatively common for process improvements and other revisions to bring power usage down even when the processor performance goes up.

If (for example) the K2 processor is 55 nanometer and the K1 was 65 nanometer, the new processor could easily use less power. I don't know which process they're using, or whether they're using a newer CPU revision, but a more powerful processor doesn't always mean more power usage.

Partial screen redraws, and the removal of the secondary LCD display are also going to reduce power draw. When you add that to the power savings from removing the card slot, it's no surprise they get 25% more usage from the same battery.

koland · 02-25-2009, 09:12 AM

They also had announced that they had an active power management chip in the new Kindle, missing from the old. The SD card when not used was probably not a power draw, but when a card is inserted, it definitely does impact battery life (but they would not be able to use this in their claim of added life, since the old life figures were with no SD card inserted).

catsittingstill · 03-03-2009, 09:44 PM

What does it mean, that pilotbob has "gone all green"? Congratulations to him, of course, but I'd like to know what I'm congratulating him <i>for</i>.

desertgrandma · 03-03-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by catsittingstill

What does it mean, that pilotbob has "gone all green"? Congratulations to him, of course, but I'd like to know what I'm congratulating him <i>for</i>.

He's a "mod"......a 'caretaker', if you will. Someone who watches out for us........and watches us............

Thomas Ryan · 03-04-2009, 08:09 PM

Getting back on track -

If it's a CDMA module, then it's probably a R-UIM card, which is like a SIM card but for CDMA

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-ruim-card.htm tells the story. This page has links to explain SIM cards too. Just trying to be helpful.

Speaking of power and processors - someone might want to consider - faster CPUs get things done more quickly. Everything else being equal, less "on time", less power. I'm not sure everything is equal, since energy rises with frequency (if I remember some old science class correctly), but then one of you said smaller is better, so maybe the speed thing matters somewhat for CPU intensive certain tasks.

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02-24-2009, 08:32 PM	#17
Ervserver Wizard Posts: 2,624 Karma: 1008294 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch	battery is 3.7 V, 1530 mAh lithium polymer....hmmm same as Kindle I

02-25-2009, 09:12 AM	#27
koland Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,560 Karma: 8033155 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: TN, USA Device: kindle(all), nook, nookcolor, Sony, Kobo, epic, iphone, iPad, pc	They also had announced that they had an active power management chip in the new Kindle, missing from the old. The SD card when not used was probably not a power draw, but when a card is inserted, it definitely does impact battery life (but they would not be able to use this in their claim of added life, since the old life figures were with no SD card inserted).

03-03-2009, 09:44 PM	#28
catsittingstill Guru Posts: 643 Karma: 551634 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle 1.0.8, iPod Touch, Kindle Keyboard	What does it mean, that pilotbob has "gone all green"? Congratulations to him, of course, but I'd like to know what I'm congratulating him <i>for</i>.

03-04-2009, 08:09 PM	#30
Thomas Ryan Connoisseur Posts: 62 Karma: 250 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kindle	Getting back on track - If it's a CDMA module, then it's probably a R-UIM card, which is like a SIM card but for CDMA http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-ruim-card.htm tells the story. This page has links to explain SIM cards too. Just trying to be helpful. Speaking of power and processors - someone might want to consider - faster CPUs get things done more quickly. Everything else being equal, less "on time", less power. I'm not sure everything is equal, since energy rises with frequency (if I remember some old science class correctly), but then one of you said smaller is better, so maybe the speed thing matters somewhat for CPU intensive certain tasks.

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