Does Size Matter? - Page 2

brontus · 02-14-2009, 08:09 PM

I'm pretty sure that the e-ink displays aren't remotely capable of it, but a fold-able display would be nice. For a larger format application, unfold it to 8.5x11 and for normal ebooks, a 2-page bifold like holding a normal book.

The 2 page bifold would be worth it even if you didn't need an 8.5x11 page, just to be able to hold your ebook reader like a paperback.

ED

Daithi · 02-16-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Most 8.5x11 documents/magazines have margins... so the frame of the PL reader would be the margin. And, many tech books are not 8.5x11 they are smaller than that, I'm gonna guess 9x7 or so (guessing here). That also has a margin.

So, I think the PL device is plenty big for most purposes.

BOb

Those are really good points Bob. Unfortunately, there is an internal margin to the screen as well. For example, on the Kindle the screen is 800x600 pixels but the text doesn't take up all that space. The actual space used to display books is only 640x525 which is even more than the margin on a typical page. Then again, I suppose if you were displaying a letter sized PDF that they could strip off most of the margin and also use the entire display area of the device -- since it's all done with software.

pilotbob · 02-16-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Daithi

Those are really good points Bob. Unfortunately, there is an internal margin to the screen as well.

The screen has no margin. It will display edge to edge. The margin are actually in the books layouts.

I am pretty sure the iRex DR1000 has a "no margins" mode where it zooms the documents so the margins are basically gone.

I still think having a reader with an 8.5x11inch screen will be much to big. But, perhaps in 10 years we will have just the plastic screen like a piece of paper and we won't have any frame to worry about.

BOb

roncri · 02-16-2009, 10:33 PM

Personally I'd prefer to keep the width and length the same, but make it all screen. Make it a little deeper with either a slide keyboard or a touch screen keyboard. I really don't understand the dedicated keyboard since I just can't see doing that much text input with the device.

Sonist · 02-17-2009, 02:29 AM

Just my 2c. I have a PRS-505, had a PRS-700 and just placed an order for Kindle 2.

I also have an iLiad Book Edition.

The screen on the iLiad is considerably more like a book, and more enjoyable to read, IMO. The iLiad has other (sleep-related) minor issues, but I think its screen is the perfect size (the DR1000) is too large for casual reading, for me.)

So, yeah, size does matter. I am not sure why more screens in the 8" range are not popping in the marketplace - it really seems like the perfect size.

Over · 02-17-2009, 04:38 AM

What's the most recent status of the Astak (or any onther) 9,7" eink screen ereader?

I think the Cybook's size is perfect to read novels and such. But I notice I avoid to read PDFs and my digital graphic novels in it. That's why a bigger screen entices me. I guess having both sizes matters.

Ea · 02-17-2009, 05:15 AM

6" inch (Cybook) felt slightly small to me, which is why I got an iLiad Book ed. (8"). I DO prefer the 8" screen size, but I DON'T like the extra weight.

Bigger is better for student/work reading, especially since so much content come in PDFs and you can't properly resize/reformat it. For recreational reading, I think smaller and lighter is more comfortable and is really all you need. It's also more portable.

ChelC · 02-17-2009, 10:42 AM

I would hate to carry around a bigger device. I think the size is right.

wallcraft · 02-17-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Over

What's the most recent status of the Astak (or any onther) 9,7" eink screen ereader?

See Scheduled roll-out of new EZ Reader line, so August for the Jinke model.

Over · 02-18-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

See Scheduled roll-out of new EZ Reader line, so August for the Jinke model.

Thanks, wallcraft.

Seant018 · 02-19-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

I'm sure if you ask most of these people they want a bigger device not for recreational reading but to read technical books that might have source code or charts or diagrams in them.. or documents that are basically distributed as 8.5x11 formatted size.

BOb

This sums it up perfectly for me. If I am reading technical documents, pdfs, or anything in a large format, I am going to need something much larger.

For novels, the 800x600 screen size is perfect for me.

Lemurion · 02-21-2009, 11:05 PM

One concern I have regarding the Kindle is screen-size to total footprint. Right now I'm mostly using my Palm T|X and that's almost all screen - the proportion is good even though the screen is too small.

pilotbob · 02-21-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemurion

One concern I have regarding the Kindle is screen-size to total footprint. Right now I'm mostly using my Palm T|X and that's almost all screen - the proportion is good even though the screen is too small.

I'm sure it looks much more out of proportion in the pics. The Kindle 1 look like a beast in the pics... but when I got it not so much.

BOb

Mr. Goodbar · 02-22-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

I'm sure it looks much more out of proportion in the pics. The Kindle 1 look like a beast in the pics... but when I got it not so much.

BOb

I think Bob is right on this one. For some reason when looking at the kindle from the front shots it looks to be very large, but in reality when you hold it the size is not that great. The Kindle 2 is just marginally bigger in height, but significantly thinner at the same time.

I think the current devices are good from an overall size perspective, but I would love to see them increase the screen size while keeping the footprint about the same. I find the 8" iLiad to be a great screen size, but would like a smaller overall footprint than the iLiad.

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02-14-2009, 08:09 PM	#16
brontus Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 34216 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Collins, CO Device: Sony Reader PRS-500, Kindle Fire, Aldiko on LG Optimus Elite	I'm pretty sure that the e-ink displays aren't remotely capable of it, but a fold-able display would be nice. For a larger format application, unfold it to 8.5x11 and for normal ebooks, a 2-page bifold like holding a normal book. The 2 page bifold would be worth it even if you didn't need an 8.5x11 page, just to be able to hold your ebook reader like a paperback. ED

02-16-2009, 10:33 PM	#19
roncri Enthusiast Posts: 44 Karma: 28 Join Date: Sep 2006	Personally I'd prefer to keep the width and length the same, but make it all screen. Make it a little deeper with either a slide keyboard or a touch screen keyboard. I really don't understand the dedicated keyboard since I just can't see doing that much text input with the device.

02-17-2009, 02:29 AM	#20
Sonist Apeist Posts: 2,126 Karma: 381090 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The sunny part of California Device: Generic virtual reality story-experiential device	Just my 2c. I have a PRS-505, had a PRS-700 and just placed an order for Kindle 2. I also have an iLiad Book Edition. The screen on the iLiad is considerably more like a book, and more enjoyable to read, IMO. The iLiad has other (sleep-related) minor issues, but I think its screen is the perfect size (the DR1000) is too large for casual reading, for me.) So, yeah, size does matter. I am not sure why more screens in the 8" range are not popping in the marketplace - it really seems like the perfect size.

02-17-2009, 04:38 AM	#21
Over Wizard Posts: 1,462 Karma: 6061516 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cascais, Portugal Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2", OnePlus 6	What's the most recent status of the Astak (or any onther) 9,7" eink screen ereader? I think the Cybook's size is perfect to read novels and such. But I notice I avoid to read PDFs and my digital graphic novels in it. That's why a bigger screen entices me. I guess having both sizes matters.

02-17-2009, 05:15 AM	#22
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	6" inch (Cybook) felt slightly small to me, which is why I got an iLiad Book ed. (8"). I DO prefer the 8" screen size, but I DON'T like the extra weight. Bigger is better for student/work reading, especially since so much content come in PDFs and you can't properly resize/reformat it. For recreational reading, I think smaller and lighter is more comfortable and is really all you need. It's also more portable.

02-17-2009, 10:42 AM	#23
ChelC Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 20 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Sony 700	I would hate to carry around a bigger device. I think the size is right.

02-21-2009, 11:05 PM	#27
Lemurion eReader Posts: 2,750 Karma: 4968470 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Note 5; PW3; Nook HD+; ChuWi Hi12; iPad	One concern I have regarding the Kindle is screen-size to total footprint. Right now I'm mostly using my Palm T\|X and that's almost all screen - the proportion is good even though the screen is too small.

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