First impressions of iLiad Book Edition (with screenshots) - Page 2

DesiLinguist · 02-13-2009, 11:24 AM

Atom_, thanks for the info again. wallcraft, thanks for linking to those posts! They answer my questions exactly. _Ea_, I have the Tintin and the Asterix collection and they aren't really readable on the iLiad but I guess one can't have everything. BTW, I read without the cover at home as well because using the cover does make it a little uncomfortable to hold.

I am wondering what people's experiences with traveling with the iLiad via air? I am recently going on a long 16 hour flight to Asia. Is the iLiad treated like a laptop and taken out of the bag (which I feel is risky given how fragile the screen is) or is it ok to leave it in the bag like your smartphone? I guess that answer will change depending on whether you are flying out of the US (like me) or Europe/Australia but I would appreciate any tips.

Oh, one more thing. Is it safe to try all these package installations from a USB flash drive instead of a CF card? I ask because I will only get my CF card in a week or so and I am itching to try out the all-in-one iPDF viewer with my technical articles. However, I want to make sure that it is likely to work even with a USB drive. I have an old iPod Shuffle that i use as a flash drive. I am guessing I will have to reformat it as FAT32?

wallcraft · 02-13-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DesiLinguist

I am wondering what people's experiences with traveling with the iLiad via air?

I usually treat it like a laptop, the one time I didn't the screener asked me if it was a DVD player but let it through.

Atom_ · 02-13-2009, 01:37 PM

As I understand it should work from the usb without problems. I think it really is just a kind of script which replaces one ipdf executable with other. Even if you unplug the usb, the version you last choosed should be kept and work ok.

For column mode I prefer alanine's version, it feels more intuitive to me. But the anotations are not shown properly. Well, you can annotate, and the annotations are kept and you see them ok when writting them. But if you want to review them in column mode, they don't show properly. You'll see. I will try to fix this as soon as I have some time to deal with the develpment environment ;-)

You can merge the annotations in a new pdf in the computer with this great multiplatform java application -> https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9535

Enjoy your papers!!

Atom_ · 02-13-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

Yes, Maus looks good, but then the paper version is only slightly larger than the the screen size. American graphic novels and manga have good sizes, but unfortunately not European comics, which are a little larger than A4/Letter (and also often in colour). I'm looking forward to the time I can get a large enough colour e-ink device to read my Asterix collection

In fact I first tried Persepolis, and it should be ok, except for the scan has a big white area at the top which makes everything much smaller as it should (is a cbr of course). I'm looking around my paper comics and in fact most of them are similar size as Maus, roughly "book size". Maus being one of the smallest, you're right.

I have to say that made some tests with the cbz -> pdf conversion tool I mentioned before, and I think I will convert some things, say... Persepolis ? hehe.

Nevertheless, I think the iLiad is a bit limited in this sense. Not everything was going to be perfect!

We'll have to wait for some years... or get a second hand old tablet pc just to read comics in full size/color

DesiLinguist · 02-18-2009, 01:35 PM

I had a follow up question now that I have used the iLiad for week or so. I usually read for about an hour or two and then power off the iLiad. That means that I usually power on/off 2-3 times a day. I am assuming this is not a problem? Of course, I would much rather not turn it off but the lack of a sleep/suspend mode forces my hand.

So, my question is, could turning the iLiad off and an 2-3 times a day possibly have any negative effects on the battery life or anything else?

cbell · 02-18-2009, 11:53 PM

Hi DesiLinguist, sounds like you're enjoying your new iLiad!

There's information on getting the most from your iLiad's batteries at: http://www.irextechnologies.com/batteries

I usually power on/off 2-3 times every day, too. My iLiad's just over a year old now and the batteries are working fine.

DesiLinguist · 02-19-2009, 12:22 AM

That's good to know. Thanks for the helpful information, cbell ... as always

Shaggy · 02-19-2009, 02:19 PM

I think prolonging the battery life has more to do with how you charge/discharge it, not really how many times a day you power it on/off.

The main thing with the batteries is that topping them off after small discharges is better than letting them run way down. Basically, the further they go down the more damage it does. I usually try and recharge mine when it gets about halfway, rather than let it run out completely.

DesiLinguist · 02-19-2009, 04:54 PM

I see. I will also do something like that once my 5 full charge-full discharge cycles are over. I am still on the second cycle

Ea · 02-20-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy

I think prolonging the battery life has more to do with how you charge/discharge it, not really how many times a day you power it on/off.

The main thing with the batteries is that topping them off after small discharges is better than letting them run way down. Basically, the further they go down the more damage it does. I usually try and recharge mine when it gets about halfway, rather than let it run out completely.

I've learned the complete opposite; that it's best to run the battery down. And that if you top it off often, it's best to run it down at least once in a while to prolong battery life.

This is what I've always heard was the best thing to do. I'm not saiyng I'm necessarily right, but I wondered if you had an explanation for that it's better to top it off. Topping it off is certainly more convenient.

Shaggy · 02-20-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ea

I've learned the complete opposite; that it's best to run the battery down. And that if you top it off often, it's best to run it down at least once in a while to prolong battery life.

This is what I've always heard was the best thing to do. I'm not saiyng I'm necessarily right, but I wondered if you had an explanation for that it's better to top it off. Topping it off is certainly more convenient.

That procedure (letting it run down at least once in a while) is if you have batteries with "memory" problems. I don't think that applies to the type of batteries in the iLiad.

Ea · 02-20-2009, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy

That procedure (letting it run down at least once in a while) is if you have batteries with "memory" problems. I don't think that applies to the type of batteries in the iLiad.

Okay, I get that.

But what about topping off vs. using up in general?

Shaggy · 02-20-2009, 12:03 PM

I'm not an expert, but I've seen comments from several other people who know a lot more about batteries than I do, that for the type of battery in the iLiad the "best practice" is to top them off frequently and not let them run down. It gets more technical (and I don't know all the details), but it has to do with how the batteries are constructed and being healthiest without the stress/heat of a large charge cycle.

I've seen guidelines for lithium-ion batteries that state to prolong their life they should be "charged early and often" and not "deep-cycled", unless they are going to be stored for a long time without being used. For long storage without use they should first be brought to a 40% - 60% charge level.

Ea · 02-22-2009, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy

I'm not an expert, but I've seen comments from several other people who know a lot more about batteries than I do, that for the type of battery in the iLiad the "best practice" is to top them off frequently and not let them run down. It gets more technical (and I don't know all the details), but it has to do with how the batteries are constructed and being healthiest without the stress/heat of a large charge cycle.

I've seen guidelines for lithium-ion batteries that state to prolong their life they should be "charged early and often" and not "deep-cycled", unless they are going to be stored for a long time without being used. For long storage without use they should first be brought to a 40% - 60% charge level.

This is good enough for me

Mr. Goodbar · 02-22-2009, 08:31 AM

Without going into a lot of detail think about the iLiad battery as having a finite number of charge cycles where each cycle is equivalent to one full charge from a dead battery standpoint. For example, if the finite number of charges available is 100 then recharging when the battery is 25% depleted would give you 400 charge cycles, 50% depleted would give you 200 cycles.

In reality it's not that simple, but it is a decent approximation of how it works. For any lithium based battery it is best to keep them topped off and not to let them run down completely.

02-13-2009, 11:24 AM	#16
DesiLinguist Computational Linguist Posts: 110 Karma: 100 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: iLiad BE, iPhone, Kindle DX	Atom_, thanks for the info again. wallcraft, thanks for linking to those posts! They answer my questions exactly. _Ea_, I have the Tintin and the Asterix collection and they aren't really readable on the iLiad but I guess one can't have everything. BTW, I read without the cover at home as well because using the cover does make it a little uncomfortable to hold. I am wondering what people's experiences with traveling with the iLiad via air? I am recently going on a long 16 hour flight to Asia. Is the iLiad treated like a laptop and taken out of the bag (which I feel is risky given how fragile the screen is) or is it ok to leave it in the bag like your smartphone? I guess that answer will change depending on whether you are flying out of the US (like me) or Europe/Australia but I would appreciate any tips. Oh, one more thing. Is it safe to try all these package installations from a USB flash drive instead of a CF card? I ask because I will only get my CF card in a week or so and I am itching to try out the all-in-one iPDF viewer with my technical articles. However, I want to make sure that it is likely to work even with a USB drive. I have an old iPod Shuffle that i use as a flash drive. I am guessing I will have to reformat it as FAT32? Last edited by DesiLinguist; 02-13-2009 at 11:30 AM.

02-13-2009, 01:37 PM	#18
Atom_ Enthusiast Posts: 26 Karma: 11 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spain Device: iLiad	As I understand it should work from the usb without problems. I think it really is just a kind of script which replaces one ipdf executable with other. Even if you unplug the usb, the version you last choosed should be kept and work ok. For column mode I prefer alanine's version, it feels more intuitive to me. But the anotations are not shown properly. Well, you can annotate, and the annotations are kept and you see them ok when writting them. But if you want to review them in column mode, they don't show properly. You'll see. I will try to fix this as soon as I have some time to deal with the develpment environment ;-) You can merge the annotations in a new pdf in the computer with this great multiplatform java application -> https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9535 Enjoy your papers!! Last edited by Atom_; 02-13-2009 at 01:39 PM.

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DesiLinguist Computational Linguist Posts: 110 Karma: 100 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: iLiad BE, iPhone, Kindle DX	I had a follow up question now that I have used the iLiad for week or so. I usually read for about an hour or two and then power off the iLiad. That means that I usually power on/off 2-3 times a day. I am assuming this is not a problem? Of course, I would much rather not turn it off but the lack of a sleep/suspend mode forces my hand. So, my question is, could turning the iLiad off and an 2-3 times a day possibly have any negative effects on the battery life or anything else?

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cbell Frenetic Posts: 590 Karma: 8181 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Australia Device: iLiad V2	Hi DesiLinguist, sounds like you're enjoying your new iLiad! There's information on getting the most from your iLiad's batteries at: http://www.irextechnologies.com/batteries I usually power on/off 2-3 times every day, too. My iLiad's just over a year old now and the batteries are working fine.

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DesiLinguist Computational Linguist Posts: 110 Karma: 100 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: iLiad BE, iPhone, Kindle DX	That's good to know. Thanks for the helpful information, cbell ... as always

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Shaggy Wizard Posts: 4,293 Karma: 529619 Join Date: May 2007 Device: iRex iLiad, DR800SG	I think prolonging the battery life has more to do with how you charge/discharge it, not really how many times a day you power it on/off. The main thing with the batteries is that topping them off after small discharges is better than letting them run way down. Basically, the further they go down the more damage it does. I usually try and recharge mine when it gets about halfway, rather than let it run out completely.

02-19-2009, 04:54 PM	#24
DesiLinguist Computational Linguist Posts: 110 Karma: 100 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: iLiad BE, iPhone, Kindle DX	I see. I will also do something like that once my 5 full charge-full discharge cycles are over. I am still on the second cycle

02-20-2009, 12:03 PM	#28
Shaggy Wizard Posts: 4,293 Karma: 529619 Join Date: May 2007 Device: iRex iLiad, DR800SG	I'm not an expert, but I've seen comments from several other people who know a lot more about batteries than I do, that for the type of battery in the iLiad the "best practice" is to top them off frequently and not let them run down. It gets more technical (and I don't know all the details), but it has to do with how the batteries are constructed and being healthiest without the stress/heat of a large charge cycle. I've seen guidelines for lithium-ion batteries that state to prolong their life they should be "charged early and often" and not "deep-cycled", unless they are going to be stored for a long time without being used. For long storage without use they should first be brought to a 40% - 60% charge level.

02-22-2009, 08:31 AM	#30
Mr. Goodbar Wizard Posts: 1,005 Karma: 98078 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Mini 4	Without going into a lot of detail think about the iLiad battery as having a finite number of charge cycles where each cycle is equivalent to one full charge from a dead battery standpoint. For example, if the finite number of charges available is 100 then recharging when the battery is 25% depleted would give you 400 charge cycles, 50% depleted would give you 200 cycles. In reality it's not that simple, but it is a decent approximation of how it works. For any lithium based battery it is best to keep them topped off and not to let them run down completely.

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