Should we expect Kindle devices 2027 with user-removable battery?

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Things became harder once Apple decided not to allow a user replaceable battery for the iPhone and other companies decided this was a good idea.

Apple was not the first company to produce a mobile phone without a user replaceable battery since I have vague memories of a Motorola PEBL phone as the first phone I used that did not have a user replaceable battery.

Apple may have popularized the idea but originate it? That they did not do.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Apple was not the first company to produce a mobile phone without a user replaceable battery since I have vague memories of a Motorola PEBL phone as the first phone I used that did not have a user replaceable battery.

Apple may have popularized the idea but originate it? That they did not do.

There is a lot of things Apple did not original such as the iPad and the GUI.

[andy10019]

I wish the next EU law for mobile devices would be allowing app side-loading on kindle kobo etc.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by andy10019

I wish the next EU law for mobile devices would be allowing app side-loading on kindle kobo etc.

You can sideload apps on a Kobo. You just need an app that will execute with it's Linux OS that is able to interface to an eInk display and whatever input the Kobo allows. Please note that neither Kobo or Kindle eInk ereaders run Android or a derivative though Amazon seems to be moving their Kindles in the direction of their Android fork.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DNSB

You can sideload apps on a Kobo. You just need an app that will execute with it's Linux OS that is able to interface to an eInk display and whatever input the Kobo allows. Please note that neither Kobo or Kindle eInk ereaders run Android or a derivative though Amazon seems to be moving their Kindles in the direction of their Android fork.

Eventually I think Amazon is going to remove their Android variant is favor of this closed and locked down Vega OS. Amazon already started doing it on new Firesticks.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by andy10019

I wish the next EU law for mobile devices would be allowing app side-loading on kindle kobo etc.

That makes as much sense as a DVD player having apps. Little more sense than a fridge or toaster.

An ereader is a single use appliance. It's phones, Tablets, netbooks, chromebooks, laptops etc that should be easy to install to outside of a store. Sideloading is a term that should be boycotted as Google now suggests it's evil.
Google is locking down Android like iOS. MacOS and Win11 are drifting to walled gardens too.

[Sirtel]

Well, at least you can still install any Windows program on Win11. It doesn't need to be approved by Microsoft or available in their store.

The day you can no longer do that will probably be the day I ditch Windows.

As for Android, there aren't any other options, unfortunately - iOS is no better. And there are no Linux phones that I know of.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Quoth

That makes as much sense as a DVD player having apps. Little more sense than a fridge or toaster.

An ereader is a single use appliance. It's phones, Tablets, netbooks, chromebooks, laptops etc that should be easy to install to outside of a store. Sideloading is a term that should be boycotted as Google now suggests it's evil.
Google is locking down Android like iOS. MacOS and Win11 are drifting to walled gardens too.

Back before smart TVs were the norm, I had a Sony LCD TV that was not smart. Back then I was doing some beta testing for Skype and we were given a Panasonic Blu-Ray planer that has Skye as an app. It also had other apps on it such as Netflix. It worked rather well. There was a camera that went with it for use with Skype.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Well, at least you can still install any Windows program on Win11. It doesn't need to be approved by Microsoft or available in their store.

The day you can no longer do that will probably be the day I ditch Windows.

As for Android, there aren't any other options, unfortunately - iOS is no better. And there are no Linux phones that I know of.

If you are located in the EU, you can install alternate App Stores on iOS/iPadOS.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you are located in the EU, you can install alternate App Stores on iOS/iPadOS.

Good to know, but you can't sideload an app, like you can sideload an apk. file on Android, can you?

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Back before smart TVs were the norm, I had a Sony LCD TV that was not smart. Back then I was doing some beta testing for Skype and we were given a Panasonic Blu-Ray planer that has Skye as an app. It also had other apps on it such as Netflix. It worked rather well. There was a camera that went with it for use with Skype.

I still have a dumb TV, nearly 12 years old now. I do most of my rare watching on my laptop, so haven't bothered to replace my TV. It has a good screen for something so old - not 4K, but still very nice, and I watch so little TV that I have no need for a newer device.

[Dr. Drib]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I think it would be better to have 1 variant with the replaceable battery.

I'm hoping Kobo does this with a new Libra BW.

Yeah, if they get their fingers out of their behinds and actually release a new Libra B&W !!!

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Good to know, but you can't sideload an app, like you can sideload an apk. file on Android, can you?

You can't side load. But at least in the EU you're not stuck with just the Apple App Store.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

Yeah, if they get their fingers out of their behinds and actually release a new Libra B&W !!!

A Libra BW with a battery easily replaceable enough hat my mother-in-law can replace the battery would be great.

[Nephesh]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

[...]there are no Linux phones that I know of.

The ones I know of are, in no particular order: Pinephone, Jolla, Purism Librem and this one I discovered now Furiphone. Then there are the Android-based "distro" and custom rom's phones like Fairphone, Volla. There are others for sure for I'm not an expert.