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Old 02-03-2026, 03:28 AM   #16
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offtopic: if you're new to arch do check https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arc..._distributions Arch always prefer to patching to minimum level
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Old 02-03-2026, 04:11 AM   #17
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Well, by the way of how AUR packages work, updating calibre is still a patching to minimum level. To put it simply:
  1. it download the official binaire
  2. install it into a fake/temp folder
  3. package it
  4. then perform the effective install from this package (and do perform the update patching minimum level)

Else, to explain with it is preferable to always use the official binaries (or at least use it as reference by wraping it):
Calibre it quite a big software with a lot of dependencies, with some of them are also python dependencies that require to be complied to improve performances. This also to ensure that this combination of dependencies work without issue.

Calibre installer still try to install some dependencies with the official package on Arch (file 'setup/arch-ci.sh'), but I admit that I have reached the limits of my understanding of how calibre binaries installation functionnaly work on Arch.

But, this one big single installation with all included dependencies of the official binaires installer has the advantage of being extremely independent of the Linux distributions on wich you try to install it. Is not the very linux way to do like that, but you only have to look at the update table on the official repo -> almost all that not a full wraping of the official bin installer are more or less severly outated.

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Old 02-03-2026, 07:16 AM   #18
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I wouldn't be so harsh in my judgment @DiapDealer, from an outside perspective, it is very relevant to ask why the versioning of AUR package work like that.
That's fine. You be as (un)harsh as you like and I'll do the same. But to be clear, Jon wasn't "asking" anything about Arch versioning. He was saying the version was wrong. Hence the problem.

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Old 02-03-2026, 03:12 PM   #19
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Perhaps Jon should be pointed at PKGBUILD in the ArchWiki. It was the first hit on a search on the use of Arch's pkgver-pkgrel in creating package names so not all that much effort to keep one's feet out of one's mouth.
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Old 02-05-2026, 01:44 AM   #20
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As Jon travels through this forum, it seems he walks through a minefield of coiled snakes, just waiting to strike at the slightest imagined provocation. I'm not sure why that is - maybe something happened before I joined the forum - but I've noticed it for many years. It's not a good look for the forum.
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Old 02-05-2026, 05:50 AM   #21
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As Jon travels through this forum, it seems he walks through a minefield of coiled snakes, just waiting to strike at the slightest imagined provocation. I'm not sure why that is - maybe something happened before I joined the forum - but I've noticed it for many years. It's not a good look for the forum.
Well, Jon is a very active user and can be a great help by that.
But from my point of view, saddly Jon as the not undeserved reputation to be a bit too "enthusiastic" in his statements, which often leads him to say things that aren't exactly false, but aren't exactly true either, which requires a more experienced user to clarify.
EDIT: In itself, this is not a problem; mistakes happen. But combined with his very high level of activity...

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Old 02-05-2026, 08:56 AM   #22
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It's not a good look for the forum.
Oooooh... is it time for the annual online forum beauty pageant already?
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As Jon travels through this forum, it seems he walks through a minefield of coiled snakes, just waiting to strike at the slightest imagined provocation. I'm not sure why that is - maybe something happened before I joined the forum - but I've noticed it for many years. It's not a good look for the forum.
For me, it's Jon's seeming inability to learn from his mistakes. Anyone can screw up once and learn from their mistake. Others seem to have opinions received on stone tablets on a mountaintop.
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