09-15-2021, 10:36 AM | #16 | |
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How long does it take for your Kindle to index books? How well would it handle something like a fuzzy search when you can't remember the exact phrase? They haven't made any real SoC changes for years. It's the same 1GHz chip with 512mb of RAM over and over. Extra power can open new doors is my point. |
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09-15-2021, 10:48 AM | #17 | |
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It Ends with Us: A Novel Paperback: $9.86 Kindle: $11.99 THE SEVEN HUSBANDS OF EVELYN HUGO Paperback: $13.40 Kindle: $13.99 Where the Crawdads Sing Paperback: $9.98 Kindle: $12.99 The Song of Achilles Paperback: Amazon doesn't have it new right now, camelcamelcamel says it was $10.35 Kindle: $10.49 People we meet on Vacation Paperback: $9.98 Kindle: $9.99 |
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09-15-2021, 11:14 AM | #18 |
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I suppose a rant doesn’t have to be entirely factual, but the Atlantic doesn’t need yet another hit to its credibility. “Authors-making-up-stuff” has become a thing for it lately; at some point, it won’t be taken seriously any longer. It’s a loss.
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09-15-2021, 12:02 PM | #19 |
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Generally here (Ireland) the kindle titles are cheaper than paperbacks, except paperbacks bought in the supermarket.
But I've noticed that Amazon UK and DE have now got more expensive for some recent paperback titles than our local physical bookshop (an independent with one shop!). Monopoly? Amazon has bought up Abe, Book Depository and others. Also now with Brexit it's cheaper to buy from Amazon DE + shipping (maybe €5) than Amazon UK with "free" shipping. I have two Kindle accounts, one is on UK and the other is on USA. You can transfer an Irish Address Kindle account to USA for Kindle, but then can't buy UK only titles. Also ALL your kindles are "moved". Hence having two accounts. I buy USA Amazon gift cards using my UK account (which works for everything EXCEPT ebooks on DE) and email to the USA Account for the USA Kindle. Some Kindle ebooks are a lot more expensive than paperback and some are a lot cheaper. I've also recently found that BluRay is no longer automatically dearer than DVD, sometimes a lot cheaper, but I now only buy Amazon DVD/BluRay from DE because of UK-Ireland Customs. Many titles are just different language covers on DE vs UK-IRL version. It's the same region for BD. I don't care about DVD region, except I try to avoid NTSC format DVDs as they are 480 lines vs 576 for PAL regions. Some USA titles are even stupidly 3:2 pull down instead of progressive on the disc which creates comb artefacts with pans or horizontal movement. PAL DVDs NEVER have transfer artefacts. |
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I don't have a Kindle, I have a Kobo, so no onboard indexing at all. And I I never said there wasn't a a place for PDFs, just that that place is not my eink reader. Different tools for different tasks |
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09-15-2021, 12:12 PM | #21 | |
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As I've mentioned countless times in endless parades of threads like this: I don't even compare the price of a format I prefer to buy with price of a format I have zero intention of buying. It's irrelevant. If the price of the format I'm going to buy is currently too high for my comfort, I just wait until it's not any more. Same as it ever was. The problem with all the "ebooks are too expensive" diatribes is that they're all predicated on everyone believing that ebooks are somehow inherently less valuable than their paper counterparts. But everyone doesn't believe that. Ebooks are inherently more valuable to me than their paper counterparts. The fact that I nearly always pay less for the ebook format of a title than the current available paper version of the same title is just icing on the cake. Last edited by DiapDealer; 09-15-2021 at 02:06 PM. |
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With ebooks, it is possible to determine exactly how much of a book is read, and how frequently books are read --- if the individual doesn't consistently take active measures to prevent the device manufacturer, and/or software developer from obtaining that information. |
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I'm not surprised that Amazon drops the prices on bestselling paperbacks as much as they can. A luxury they do not have with ebooks, where the price is set by the publisher. But funny enough, your list stops at five. Here are the next five: NINE PERFECT STRANGERS by Liane Moriarty Kindle: $ 9.99 Paperback: $11.39 THE RETURN by Nicholas Sparks Kindle: $11.99 Paperback: $13.99 UGLY LOVE by Colleen Hoover Kindle: $10.99 Paperback: $10.19 VERITY by Colleen Hoover Kindle: $5.99 Paperback: $11.99 THE GUEST LIST by Lucy Foley Kindle: $11.99 Paperback: $13.58 And then there's the vast majority of what people read: backlist. For the most part, ebooks are going to be cheaper than their paper counterpart. If you find a good sale, they will be significantly cheaper. But in general, they are usually a bit cheaper. And the real question here is: Who is Colleen Hoover? Two books on the bestseller list and they have been there for multiple weeks. Good for her. Last edited by ZodWallop; 09-15-2021 at 12:51 PM. |
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I don't know if there was an NDA. The creators of these types of reports tend to be extremely willing to sue first, and ask questions later, considering any quotation to be a a major breach of copyright. No such thing as Fair Use, as far as the report creators are concerned. Any publicity is treated as bad publicity. As I understand it, the report was more or less along the lines of: "In category ω, average number of pages is χ, average penetration of ψ% and is opened/read ζ times," with some outliers included as anecdotal examples. |
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09-15-2021, 04:52 PM | #28 |
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I think he has a point. There is definitely a thing "bookiness". My daughter, who would rather read a paper book, has long said the same thing - albeit with different words.
She misses the feel of progress, the book mark making it's way through the book. Sure, an ebook tells you that you are 33.6% through - but it's not meeting the same visceral feel. I agree with her. I love ebooks, but I miss the sense of the size of a book and the progress of the bookmark. I love a good leather bible with gilded edges and red letters. The smell of the leather, the heft, the "this is holy" sense of the physical item. Now, I can list the many advantages of an ebook and reading an ebook. It is far and away my favorite way to read. But I can understand why someone could value "bookiness". |
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I think most people rarely buy either and that library borrowing is more than both both combined.
Am I sure? No, because I can't find national total library circulation numbers. But here's some raw U.S. data consistent with my idea: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ook-sales-usa/ https://libguides.ala.org/libraryfac...apper-17302562 Quote:
I mobile read anyway because of weight, bigger fonts, and not having to travel to libraries. But just because I mostly read on eInk doesn't make critics wrong. As I wrote before, screens destroyed local journalism, having, I think, a terrible effect on positive civic engagement. I wonder if some committed mobile readers read non-fiction less because they would lose a bit of the content. If so, this is a genuine negative to society (although nothing like the decline of general interest newspapers and magazines). |
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Eh I dunno. I don't miss anything about paper books. Nothing at all, including the smell and the weight. Or bookmarks. Or page turning.
It's something I don't just get. Paper books have their place. Books with many pictures and photos are better as paper, imo. But general text? No way. Last edited by Sirtel; 09-15-2021 at 05:00 PM. |
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