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Old 08-13-2021, 08:18 PM   #16
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Publisher default is being used regardless of what I choose. Line spacing is also having no effect. Wish they would just set the handling of kepub and epub to be as similar as possible.

Anyway, it's good to know most of this can be patched. I don't read many Norwegian books at the moment, so not a huge issue.
If choosing another font is not changing the font at all, then there is a problem. Sure, something can't be overridden, but, I don't am pretty sure the body font will always be overridden. Choosing OpenDyslexic should change the book to use OpenDyslexic as the font for most of the text. It does here.

I would suggest manually reinstalling your current firmware version. This can fix problems if there was one during the upgrade. It will also remove any patches in case there is something wrong with one of them or a conflict between them. If that doesn't work, then it probably needs a full factory reset.
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Old 08-16-2021, 02:08 AM   #17
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If choosing another font is not changing the font at all, then there is a problem. Sure, something can't be overridden, but, I don't am pretty sure the body font will always be overridden. Choosing OpenDyslexic should change the book to use OpenDyslexic as the font for most of the text. It does here.

I would suggest manually reinstalling your current firmware version. This can fix problems if there was one during the upgrade. It will also remove any patches in case there is something wrong with one of them or a conflict between them. If that doesn't work, then it probably needs a full factory reset.

I also have an Elipsa. I just transferred the same books over, and it is exactly the same behaviour there. I'm guessing it is more likely a result of the books CSS. I had a look and it seems the publisher is using more or less the same CSS files for all their books.
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Old 08-16-2021, 04:27 AM   #18
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I also have an Elipsa. I just transferred the same books over, and it is exactly the same behaviour there. I'm guessing it is more likely a result of the books CSS. I had a look and it seems the publisher is using more or less the same CSS files for all their books.
That is possible, but, my experience is that it will be overwritten. We would probably need to see the books to get an idea. If they are legally downloadable from somewhere, can you post the link? The preview will probably show enough to work out what is wrong. Or, you can use the ScambleBook plugin in calibre to make a version that can be uploaded here.
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:17 AM   #19
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That is possible, but, my experience is that it will be overwritten. We would probably need to see the books to get an idea. If they are legally downloadable from somewhere, can you post the link? The preview will probably show enough to work out what is wrong. Or, you can use the ScambleBook plugin in calibre to make a version that can be uploaded here.
Unfortunately there are no previews and I can't legally share them as they are copyrighted. Anyone know if it would be considered ok to post a screenshot of a paragraph from the html file along with CSS being applied?
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Unfortunately there are no previews and I can't legally share them as they are copyrighted. Anyone know if it would be considered ok to post a screenshot of a paragraph from the html file along with CSS being applied?
Yes, you could. What we want to see is a sample of the HTML code and the CSS that is used. From that we can work out what is happening and maybe test it. A sample would do. Or, for calibre uses, the ScrambleEbook plugin produces a book that can be published here, but, should show the same behaviour.
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Old 08-16-2021, 08:30 AM   #21
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I used the ScambleEbook plugin, and tested it. Same behaviour.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uk6chgz63d...sues.epub?dl=0

The first 3 pages or so respect the chosen font. After that my choice of font is ignored.
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Old 08-16-2021, 09:38 AM   #22
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I used the ScambleEbook plugin, and tested it. Same behaviour.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uk6chgz63d...sues.epub?dl=0

The first 3 pages or so respect the chosen font. After that my choice of font is ignored.
The problem is that in the stylesheet, most of the styles have:

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	font-family: serif;
It appears that this isn't being overridden when choosing a font. OpenDyslexic is a sans serif font. If I choose a font with serifs, the font does get applied everywhere. And the reason that the first few pages do change, is that they do not use the stylesheet. The styles are defined in the head section of the file.

This is only happening for epubs. It must be the way that the RMSDK works. You would probably see the same if you opened the book with ADE. The kepub renderer use the selected font everywhere.

In my mind, this is a fault in the design of the book. There is no reason to specify the font-family for the body text. It should mainly be done in places where having the text different to the rest of the text is useful. Headings or in a quote or something like that. But, not for the main body text.
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Old 08-16-2021, 09:59 AM   #23
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In my mind, this is a fault in the design of the book. There is no reason to specify the font-family for the body text. It should mainly be done in places where having the text different to the rest of the text is useful. Headings or in a quote or something like that. But, not for the main body text.
Unfortunately, this seems to be the norm for Norwegian ebooks. Every single one I've purchased is like this.
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Unfortunately, this seems to be the norm for Norwegian ebooks. Every single one I've purchased is like this.
That's unfortunate. I can understand all books from a publisher being the same as they probably share a common publishing process and they probably use a common stylesheet. But, I would not expect multiple publishers to have the same problem.

For the record, they should be doing this at the body level. If the font-face is specified there, the epub reader will override it compete. Doing that allows the user to choose a font to read with, but, lets the book creator specify something different for short sections of text.
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Yeah, it's at least 3 different publishers. I know at least one of them has a different owner. At least it's easy enough to edit the CSS in calibre.

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Publisher default is being used regardless of what I choose. Line spacing is also having no effect. Wish they would just set the handling of kepub and epub to be as similar as possible.

Anyway, it's good to know most of this can be patched. I don't read many Norwegian books at the moment, so not a huge issue.


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It's problems like these as part of the reason I strip out most embedded fonts and line-height from the CSS. This means I don't have a problem with the font I want to use and I don't have a problem with my choice of line height.

There are a lot of CSS with such rubbish. So when I am done, the rubbish is gone.
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It's problems like these as part of the reason I strip out most embedded fonts and line-height from the CSS. This means I don't have a problem with the font I want to use and I don't have a problem with my choice of line height.

There are a lot of CSS with such rubbish. So when I am done, the rubbish is gone.
I stripped out use of "font-family" and "line-height" from the CSS files. Ebooks now seem to behave the way I would expect them to. Easy fix fortunately.
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