Do E-Ink Tablets offer the Same (or Beeter) as a Chromebook? - Page 2

jgbout · 03-13-2021, 01:03 PM

I looked at the MArs, but for just a little more, you get the SD slot, and the ability to use it as an effective note-taker and pdf markup device (nice for chess puzzle solving).

ottischwenk · 03-13-2021, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jgbout

I looked at the MArs, but for just a little more, you get the SD slot, and the ability to use it as an effective note-taker and pdf markup device (nice for chess puzzle solving).

The Mars has an SD slot.
The Ares the sun bug.

jgbout · 03-13-2021, 02:48 PM

My bad, looking at wrong thing. Mars has the 16gb built in + sd card too.
But Mars doesn't have Note-taking and pdf markup, which I would use.
If I'm paying extra for an "ereader" upgrade, I'd rather it do the note-taking.
Sun bug, no issue for me, as it's just an inside thing.
I don't go mobile with my devices.

jgbout · 03-13-2021, 02:49 PM

Now just deciding if the extra cost is worth it to go Ares instead of Forma.
Much easier decision making, haha, as it's not based on "if" something can perform a task, just if it's worthb it to me (plus loosing the physical page turn buttons)

Quoth · 03-13-2021, 04:26 PM

Handwritten notes are pretty useless except to read on the same device. Mars does typed annotation or separate text via free Jota.

A BT keyboard I got for my 10" tablet works well. As does the 3.5mm audio jack and BT audio.

jgbout · 03-13-2021, 04:31 PM

Very cool to know.
I would be using the notes on the same device though.
One big thing would be drawing chess moves on pdf books of chess puzzles.
Markup for editing a story in bed. If the notes don't follow across devices, I could just look at my 8" device with notes while editing for finish on the chromebook (much like I would if I had handwritten on paper notes for revisions.)

I'm just saying it's convenient, if I'm getting an eReader replacement/upgrade, t be able to have that note taking and perhaps replace the paper notes. I also like being able to have an idea at night, flip open the Reader and hand write out a story idea to come back to later.

jgbout · 03-13-2021, 04:31 PM

So, if I'm in gDocs on an Ares, and I scribble some handwritten notes on it, that will not transfer somehow if I pick up the work in gDocs on my Chromebook ?

Notes are then just for on that particular device, unless you save them separately as another document?

Pajamaman · 03-13-2021, 11:23 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXeUfEtcXIE

google docs on an onyx.

jgbout · 03-14-2021, 12:31 AM

Thanks. Really liked that video, but I've pretty much decided to move on. I think I would grow annoyed with shortcoming until a few things are ironed out.

I was looking at the Likebook Ares, but discovered they like to drain the battery prematurely. So, I may just be out of E-ink all together.

I like my Kobo Libra but would like a bigger screen, though, doubt I want to spend $300 on a Forma when I could have gotten all the feautres of an Ares for a little more.... but that battery issues is a stumbling block.

ottischwenk · 03-14-2021, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Quoth

Handwritten notes are pretty useless except to read on the same device.

Not in pdf - there they are embedded and can be seen, for example, in Windows with the Adobe reader.

ottischwenk · 03-14-2021, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jgbout

So, if I'm in gDocs on an Ares, and I scribble some handwritten notes on it, that will not transfer somehow if I pick up the work in gDocs on my Chromebook ?

Notes are then just for on that particular device, unless you save them separately as another document?

You cannot scribble in gDocs - only in the supplied application (BYRead ....)
The on-screen keyboard has a pen button, but this input is converted into text format.

jgbout · 03-14-2021, 01:25 AM

ok, i guess i got a completely wrong understanding of that the note-taking capabilities of these can do...

So, PDF markup is embedded - that is good !
I also saw side by side note taking on one side, and a book on the other. That still can be done right? And how are the notes saved? in association with where ion the book, or as separate files?

No note taking in word processors? Kind of ruins the whole "editor" functionality I thought it had.

PS- how bad is the battery drain? as in, no better than a regular android tablet? or closer to an e-ink ereader?

ottischwenk · 03-14-2021, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jgbout

And how are the notes saved? in association with where ion the book, or as separate files?

For pdf directly in the pdf

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No note taking in word processors? Kind of ruins the whole "editor" functionality I thought it had.

This application should have direct access to the hardware features - and that is not possible.

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PS- how bad is the battery drain? as in, no better than a regular android tablet? or closer to an e-ink ereader?

In the middle - Boox devices are much better in this regard.
Comparison: Ares about 5 days standby, compared to Nova2 - 5 weeks.

Quoth · 03-14-2021, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Not in pdf - there they are embedded and can be seen, for example, in Windows with the Adobe reader.

Useless for copy/paste to a wordprocessor. If I can read a PDF on the eink why would I want to read the PDF on a PC?
I hardly ever read PDFs now on the PC since getting a 10" Tablet.

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03-13-2021, 01:03 PM	#16
jgbout Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 20210 Join Date: Feb 2021 Device: none	I looked at the MArs, but for just a little more, you get the SD slot, and the ability to use it as an effective note-taker and pdf markup device (nice for chess puzzle solving).

03-13-2021, 02:48 PM	#18
jgbout Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 20210 Join Date: Feb 2021 Device: none	My bad, looking at wrong thing. Mars has the 16gb built in + sd card too. But Mars doesn't have Note-taking and pdf markup, which I would use. If I'm paying extra for an "ereader" upgrade, I'd rather it do the note-taking. Sun bug, no issue for me, as it's just an inside thing. I don't go mobile with my devices.

03-13-2021, 02:49 PM	#19
jgbout Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 20210 Join Date: Feb 2021 Device: none	Now just deciding if the extra cost is worth it to go Ares instead of Forma. Much easier decision making, haha, as it's not based on "if" something can perform a task, just if it's worthb it to me (plus loosing the physical page turn buttons)

03-13-2021, 04:26 PM	#20
Quoth Still reading Posts: 14,076 Karma: 105211945 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper	Handwritten notes are pretty useless except to read on the same device. Mars does typed annotation or separate text via free Jota. A BT keyboard I got for my 10" tablet works well. As does the 3.5mm audio jack and BT audio.

03-13-2021, 04:31 PM	#21
jgbout Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 20210 Join Date: Feb 2021 Device: none	Very cool to know. I would be using the notes on the same device though. One big thing would be drawing chess moves on pdf books of chess puzzles. Markup for editing a story in bed. If the notes don't follow across devices, I could just look at my 8" device with notes while editing for finish on the chromebook (much like I would if I had handwritten on paper notes for revisions.) I'm just saying it's convenient, if I'm getting an eReader replacement/upgrade, t be able to have that note taking and perhaps replace the paper notes. I also like being able to have an idea at night, flip open the Reader and hand write out a story idea to come back to later.

03-13-2021, 11:23 PM	#23
Pajamaman Wizard Posts: 2,861 Karma: 10700629 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Canada Device: Onyx Nova	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXeUfEtcXIE google docs on an onyx.

03-14-2021, 12:31 AM	#24
jgbout Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 20210 Join Date: Feb 2021 Device: none	Thanks. Really liked that video, but I've pretty much decided to move on. I think I would grow annoyed with shortcoming until a few things are ironed out. I was looking at the Likebook Ares, but discovered they like to drain the battery prematurely. So, I may just be out of E-ink all together. I like my Kobo Libra but would like a bigger screen, though, doubt I want to spend $300 on a Forma when I could have gotten all the feautres of an Ares for a little more.... but that battery issues is a stumbling block.

03-14-2021, 01:25 AM	#27
jgbout Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 20210 Join Date: Feb 2021 Device: none	ok, i guess i got a completely wrong understanding of that the note-taking capabilities of these can do... So, PDF markup is embedded - that is good ! I also saw side by side note taking on one side, and a book on the other. That still can be done right? And how are the notes saved? in association with where ion the book, or as separate files? No note taking in word processors? Kind of ruins the whole "editor" functionality I thought it had. PS- how bad is the battery drain? as in, no better than a regular android tablet? or closer to an e-ink ereader?

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