Visual Content Editor for Sigil?

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by hhtmp88

I am not sure if a Paid Project will make things faster
-> if yes, pls. let me know.

Nope. We don't accept any sort of pay/donation for our work on Sigil. It's purely hobby for us. Done at our own individual paces.

Originally Posted by hhtmp88

Thanks for the great works of Sigil Development Team!

You're welcome.

[KevinH]

Originally Posted by KevinH

@un_pogaz, I think I agree with you that having the EditToC have an icon beside the EditMetadata Icon would be a good thing. I will look into that.

If we decide to go with this approach, I will need someone to create the appropriate icons for a Edit ToC icon.

Or alternatively, we might want to think about moving the "Generate a new ToC from Headings" to the Edit ToC dialog and steal its icon as un_pogaz suggested, but that might really confuse long term users.

So perhaps a new icon for "Edit ToC" might be more appropriate. Of course any new icon would have to work with both Light and Dark modes at the same time, be consistent with what we have now, and be contributed to Sigil to prevent license issues.

Any thoughts?

[un_pogaz]

Quick idea:

[KevinH]

Yes something like that would work. Is it a SVG file? If not, we would need a 16x16px, 22x22px and 48x48px set of png files.

Thanks,

KevinH

[Notjohn]

>I still can not follow what is going on.

I for one am so relieved to hear it!

[un_pogaz]

Here the 16px and the 22px (the 48px is the first)
No it's not a SVG, I used/edit the images already in Sigil (arrow of "format-indent-more" and mirrored "generate-toc")

[KevinH]

Grabbed them. Will update master with this change this week.

Thanks

Originally Posted by un_pogaz

Here the 16px and the 22px (the 48px is the first)
No it's not a SVG, I used/edit the images already in Sigil (arrow of "format-indent-more" and mirrored "generate-toc")

[KevinH]

Okay, just pushed adding the Edit TOC icon to the Toolbar right after the Generate TOC icon. So this change will appear in the next release

[Turtle91]

You are awesome!

Has anyone told you that today?

[KevinH]

Thank un_pogaz for reducing the OP down to a common sense change, backed up with solid reasoning and for supplying the necessary icons in the right format and sizes that are consistent with our current icons. He/she really did most of the work.

My changes amounted to only a few lines of xml code in the main.ui file and updating the MainWindow to add in all the appropriate icon sizes. But given the change made sense, would not interfere with current users, and follows on other changes that would already make people need to use the View->Toolbars and some drag and dropping for the next release, it was a no brainer.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by hhtmp88

Sigil has some great features that Kotobee Author does NOT have

Yup, I agree with that.

I am requesting Visual TOC editor because I hope that this will make Sigil a perfect ePub Editor.

Practically an Visual TOC Editor will make jobs done much more quickly!
-> hope the developers of Sigil will consider it in the future.

You know, I'm sorry, but I still don't understand what you need that isn't in the book pane now? Can you explain a bit more?

I am not sure if a Paid Project will make things faster
-> if yes, pls. let me know.

I have tried more than once to throw dollar bills (so to speak) at Diap and Kevin and they have steadfastly refused. I keep hoping that they'll let me thank them in SOME fashion other than my slavish devotion.

Thanks for the great works of Sigil Development Team!

x10!



Hitch

[un_pogaz]

I have tested several ePub software.
I remember that Kotobee Author has a weird merge between "Book View" and "Edit TOC".
Here is a demonstration video: https://youtu.be/WfN-44WRYUw

Each chapter and sub-chapter are individual XHTML, organized according to the final result and order in the ToC.
It's not silly because 1) it's intuitive 2) It's the desired result in 90% of the books.

Obviously, it lacks granularity, and when you know how to use Sigil's "automatic ToC generator", you get much better results.
(But don't judge it too quickly, I just reinstalled the Kotobee for the occasion, so I certainly didn't use it to the fullest)

[theducks]

Originally Posted by un_pogaz

I have tested several ePub software.
I remember that Kotobee Author has a weird merge between "Book View" and "Edit TOC".
Here is a demonstration video: https://youtu.be/WfN-44WRYUw

Each chapter and sub-chapter are individual XHTML, organized according to the final result and order in the ToC.
It's not silly because 1) it's intuitive 2) It's the desired result in 90% of the books.

Obviously, it lacks granularity, and when you know how to use Sigil's "automatic ToC generator", you get much better results.
(But don't judge it too quickly, I just reinstalled the Kotobee for the occasion, so I certainly didn't use it to the fullest)

I really LIKE Sigil's TOC generation.
Then Kovid 1 upped that with the TOC edit in his Editor (also available as a Plugin from the main UI). It offers additional methods, some can be used to suplement the basic 'from headers'.

So my basic Q: Why not just use the tool that fits the individual job?

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by un_pogaz

I have tested several ePub software.
I remember that Kotobee Author has a weird merge between "Book View" and "Edit TOC".
Here is a demonstration video: https://youtu.be/WfN-44WRYUw

Each chapter and sub-chapter are individual XHTML, organized according to the final result and order in the ToC.
It's not silly because 1) it's intuitive 2) It's the desired result in 90% of the books.

Obviously, it lacks granularity, and when you know how to use Sigil's "automatic ToC generator", you get much better results.
(But don't judge it too quickly, I just reinstalled the Kotobee for the occasion, so I certainly didn't use it to the fullest)

I don't mean to be thick, but...so what?

In Sigil, you can use different heading styles and you can make the TOC as granular as your little heart desires. I don't think I follow what's meant by, each heading and subheading is "their own XHTML," ?, but...

Why is this Kotobee so superior? What does that do that the Book Browser doesn't, if you remotely use it correctly, esp. when coupled with the TOC-maker? Is it simply that it's pretty? I'm not being an ass (at least, not any more than usual), I'm seriously asking.

Hitch

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Hitch

I don't mean to be thick, but...so what?

In Sigil, you can use different heading styles and you can make the TOC as granular as your little heart desires. I don't think I follow what's meant by, each heading and subheading is "their own XHTML," ?, but...

Why is this Kotobee so superior? What does that do that the Book Browser doesn't, if you remotely use it correctly, esp. when coupled with the TOC-maker? Is it simply that it's pretty? I'm not being an ass (at least, not any more than usual), I'm seriously asking.

The only epub I've run into which was created using Kotobee did not use h1-h6 tags. The entire TOC was pretty much a manual creation which Kotobee evidently made fairly easy to create. I admit that while I was cleaning up the errors, I also added heading tags and titles which made it much easier for me to recreate the TOC when I was done.