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Old 05-16-2020, 07:21 AM   #16
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@VMurph: We're missing a few bits to actually make sense of the S/N, see https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kindle_Serial_Numbers .

(And, FWIW, that was the OTA build number for the KOA2 & KOA3 initial release of 5.12.4).
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Old 05-16-2020, 09:36 AM   #17
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If it’s not subject to triggering, then what does it mean if I have it while others don’t?
Either I am wrong about it not being remotely triggerable or your device is running different firmware from most others. (Or maybe others do have it but have failed to notice.)


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I have the toggle on my Oasis 3 (10th gen). I’m happy to provide my device info for you. I attached a photo of the device info along with a photo of my quick settings showing the dark-mode toggle.
Thanks. Please ignore my duplicate request in the other thread. I should have caught up before asking there.

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I‘m surprised to see that I’m not even on 5.12.5. I’m still on 5.12.4. So what does that mean? Could I lose the toggle when my Kindle updates to .5? I sure hope not!
Possibly. It you want to keep that feature I recommend holding off updating to 5.12.5 for now. (If you do happen to update please let us know if the dark mode icon is still there afterwards.)


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EDIT: Also, jhowell, if you could tell me what the prefix of my serial number indicates, that would be great.
The first six characters of the serial number identify the specific model, including regional variations. The four characters you posted, "G000", are common to several Kindle models. The next two characters will narrow it down. See the link that NiLuJe posted for details.
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Old 05-16-2020, 10:32 AM   #18
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I’m confused. Are you all talking about the Dark-Mode toggle, or am I misunderstanding the topic?

The reason I’m confused is because I have a dark-mode toggle button in my quick access settings. It’s a circle with a diagonal line through it, half light, half dark. But no one else responded to this thread in the affirmative, so I’m wondering if maybe I’ve misunderstood the question.

Anyway, I don’t know if this is what you’re referring to, but I took a pic of it and attached it below, in case it is.

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Thanks for the pic, good to know someone on this forum has actually received this quick access setting. I was worried in case it was a hoax.

Hmmm, maybe I shouldn’t have updated from 5.12.4 to 5.12.5 then.

Can you please check whether you can save a custom theme with the dark mode enabled?
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Old 05-16-2020, 09:37 PM   #19
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Thanks for the responses. Sorry it’s taken me so long to reply. I’m at a family gathering today, so I’ll post back here with the rest of my info later tonight. (or morning, if I forget)
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@VMurph: We're missing a few bits to actually make sense of the S/N, see https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kindle_Serial_Numbers
Thank you! I still have most of my previous Kindles, so that chart will be very useful in identifying the generations of each model.

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Either I am wrong about it not being remotely triggerable or your device is running different firmware from most others. (Or maybe others do have it but have failed to notice.)
Wow, this is confusing to me. Isn’t the same update pushed out to everyone? (regionally, at least) So how would it be possible for me to have a different firmware than others...let alone most others?

Do you mean a different version, or the same version but just different build?

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Possibly. It you want to keep that feature I recommend holding off updating to 5.12.5 for now.
Yeesh, I was hoping you wouldn’t say that. I really don’t want to lose the quick toggle, but its not possible to prevent that Kindle from receiving the update, because I go back and forth between Kindle (reading) and Audible (listening. So I need it to stay connected to wifi, for them to be able to sync. I guess I’ll just have to take my chances.

Although, to be honest, I’m kind of curious to find out if the toggle is still there after the update.

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(If you do happen to update please let us know if the dark mode icon is still there afterwards.)
I sure will.

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The first six characters of the serial number identify the specific model, including regional variations. The four characters you posted, "G000", are common to several Kindle models. The next two characters will narrow it down.
Ok, no problem. I’ve attached a new image showing the other two digits.

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Old 05-17-2020, 02:30 AM   #21
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Thanks for the pic, good to know someone on this forum has actually received this quick access setting. I was worried in case it was a hoax.
I’m happy I could help

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Hmmm, maybe I shouldn’t have updated from 5.12.4 to 5.12.5 then.
Well I won’t be preventing mine from updating to 5.12.5 (I need my Kindle connected to wifi) so I’ll let you know if the toggle is still there once it updates.

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Can you please check whether you can save a custom theme with the dark mode enabled?
Omg, what??! LOL, I didn’t even know that was something we could do. Silly me, I’ve been spending so much time reading, that I haven’t even looked at my settings in such a long time.

How (or where) would I do that? I’ll look through my settings and see if I can find that setting.


EDIT: oops, disregard that last part. I misread your question. I thought you were talking about being able to set a book cover as the sleep screen image. (not sure how I got that, lol)

Anyway, yes, I can create and save a new custom theme while in Dark mode.
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Old 05-17-2020, 08:24 AM   #22
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Ok, no problem. I’ve attached a new image showing the other two digits.
Thanks. So far there does not appear to be anything unusual about your Kindle that could account for the presence of the Dark Mode icon.
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Thanks. So far there does not appear to be anything unusual about your Kindle that could account for the presence of the Dark Mode icon.
Hmm, that makes it even more curious.
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Doesn't feel like Amazon will roll this out to entire line of devices
Slowly & Steady to avoid bugs

As of now there is No such feature available in Indian Variant with FW 5.12.5 (hope to get this soon)
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Old 05-18-2020, 10:00 AM   #25
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I suspect it has little to do with the "variant" (if your device supports it, as in Oasis2 and above and PW4) and is more luck of the draw because this seems like a server-side trollout.
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From what I can tell the enabling of the dark mode icon in the quick settings toolbar is a feature locked in the firmware, not subject to triggering after the fact.
I had some spare time today waiting for a package to be delivered so I took another look into the implementation of the quick setting for dark mode. After more research I have to admit that I was wrong. (In my defense reading obfuscated Java is hard.)

It turns out that not only does dark mode have to be supported by the device as indicated in the deviceConfig.conf file, but in addition it has to be remotely enabled by Amazon in order to appear. The firmware is checking for experiment KINDLE_EINK_DARK_MODE_249201 to be enabled for the user's account.

So at this point we are just waiting for Amazon to roll it out more widely and it should be safe for Vmurph to update to the latest firmware. (Personally I am more interested in the feature that displays the current book cover on the lock screen that is also implemented in the firmware, but currently disabled.)

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Thanks for the responses. Sorry it’s taken me so long to reply. I’m at a family gathering today, so I’ll post back here with the rest of my info later tonight. (or morning, if I forget)
Did you social distance from your family? Did you realize that a family gathering is a very bad idea at this time?
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