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[Deskisamess]

" Starting in June 2020, we’ll limit the ability for less secure apps (LSAs) to access G Suite account data. LSAs are non-Google apps that can access your Google account with only a username and password. They make your account more vulnerable to hijacking attempts. Instead of LSAs, you can use apps that support OAuth—a modern and secure access method.
This is most likely to impact users of legacy email, calendar, and contacts apps—see below for more details. We’ve also emailed your organization’s primary admin with details around this change. That email includes a list of users who are likely to be affected."

"Update
March 30, 2020: We have suspended the turn-off detailed here until further notice. We'll announce new timelines on the G Suite Updates blog at a later date. For more details, see this post."

From here: https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com...incorrect.html

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by rashkae

Utter popycock there

But a note for people using the "Use less secure Login"... Google is deprecating password logins starting this summer, and this will no longer work.. You'll have to either upgrade to Outook 2019, *or*, use the Google Outlook Sync Plugin

It's not popycock. Search Google and you'll find that a lot of people are posting abut the problem with GMail and Outlook. It was when I was looking for a solution that I came across that Thunderbird works properly and it does. I was using Outlook 2016 and now I'm using Thunderbird.

If you use Outlook and GMail, go to GMail via the website and have a look at hoe much space is being used. You'll be surprised. It's because the messages are not properly being deleted. The tags are being removed and are still there. Have a look at All Messages and see old messages you thought were deleted.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by Deskisamess

" Starting in June 2020, we’ll limit the ability for less secure apps (LSAs) to access G Suite account data. LSAs are non-Google apps that can access your Google account with only a username and password. They make your account more vulnerable to hijacking attempts. Instead of LSAs, you can use apps that support OAuth—a modern and secure access method.
This is most likely to impact users of legacy email, calendar, and contacts apps—see below for more details. We’ve also emailed your organization’s primary admin with details around this change. That email includes a list of users who are likely to be affected."

"Update
March 30, 2020: We have suspended the turn-off detailed here until further notice. We'll announce new timelines on the G Suite Updates blog at a later date. For more details, see this post."

From here: https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com...incorrect.html

It was deliberately to block conventional email clients. The OAuth is a tool to track users for the big privacy busters. There is no proof it's a more secure solution than encrypted logins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth

By Legacy Email, Google means any email that's not using their webpage and their services, or the built in services in Android or ChromeOS. Companies like Google tag anything they dislike as legacy.

In comparing OAuth 2.0 with OAuth 1.0, Hammer points out that it has become "more complex, less interoperable, less useful, more incomplete, and most importantly, less secure." He explains how architectural changes for 2.0 unbound tokens from clients, removed all signatures and cryptography at a protocol level and added expiring tokens (because tokens couldn't be revoked) while complicating the processing of authorization. Numerous items were left unspecified or unlimited in the specification because "as has been the nature of this working group, no issue is too small to get stuck on or leave open for each implementation to decide."[25]

OAuth for Google is about control and tracking, not being more secure.
You can only use OAuth on Thunderbird with IMAP access. I have no wish EVER to use IMAP. It's for keeping stuff on someone else's server.

[rashkae]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

It's not popycock. Search Google and you'll find that a lot of people are posting abut the problem with GMail and Outlook. It was when I was looking for a solution that I came across that Thunderbird works properly and it does. I was using Outlook 2016 and now I'm using Thunderbird.

If you use Outlook and GMail, go to GMail via the website and have a look at hoe much space is being used. You'll be surprised. It's because the messages are not properly being deleted. The tags are being removed and are still there. Have a look at All Messages and see old messages you thought were deleted.

I don't have to search google, I maintain probably nearly a 100 of these for various clients and businesses,,, you're spouting pure poppycock.. I don't actually like Gmail, (though it's the best of the free services, but a pain for administration with many users), but the one thing Gmail has is *great* integration for Outlook that noone of the other attempts at Exchange emulation have ever even come close.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by rashkae

I don't have to search google, I maintain probably nearly a 100 of these for various clients and businesses,,, you're spouting pure poppycock.. I don't actually like Gmail, (though it's the best of the free services, but a pain for administration with many users), but the one thing Gmail has is *great* integration for Outlook that noone of the other attempts at Exchange emulation have ever even come close.

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I use GMail and I was using Outlook until I got fed up with there not being any solution to the problem Outlook has with GMail.

Use Outlook with GMail via IMAP and it's broken.

Here is a thread in the GMail Help community that shows others have the exact same problem with GMial and Outlook because Outlook and GMail do not work properly together.

https://support.google.com/mail/thread/4933937?hl=en