Kindle Paperwhite 4 vs Voyage - Page 2

barryem · 11-23-2019, 07:11 PM

The new Paperwhite does have the option to disable touches. The screen won't react to any touch whatever but it will respond to swipes. Since I always swipe to turn pages anyway that should be ideal for me but it requires putting it to sleep and waking it up to turn that off if I want to do something with a menu or look up a word, so I don't use it.

If it would just stop turning pages on touch that would be ideal. However, I don't really have the problem of accidentally turning pages with the new Paperwhite.

Barry

bookyboy · 11-23-2019, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by barryem

The new Paperwhite does have the option to disable touches. The screen won't react to any touch whatever but it will respond to swipes. Since I always swipe to turn pages anyway that should be ideal for me but it requires putting it to sleep and waking it up to turn that off if I want to do something with a menu or look up a word, so I don't use it.

That is some frustrating software "lack of design" by Amazon

Tomk2 · 11-23-2019, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bookyboy

Barry, I have to say that I completely agree with this after a few days of using the Voyage for the first time ever.

It is totally maddening that there is no software option to disable page turns from touching the screen.

yep. I am getting pretty good having my thumbs hang off the outside of the bezel to avoid unwanted page turns, but I will still do it 2 or 3 times per hour of reading on the Voyage. It definitely needs a way to turn off tap page turns when the bezels are so small. However, I have the same problem with the paper white, maybe even more so, because when using my left hand to hold it I don't reach far enough over and end up a page back by mistake. So on the paper white I get unintentional page turns AND wrong way page turns.

bookyboy · 11-23-2019, 09:23 PM

@Tomk2 - lol

I'm laughing with you, not at you, by the way..

It actually makes me think that the PW3 might be better due to the screen being recessed a bit, but that model is quite a bit heavier unfortunately.

They just need way more work on the Kindle software. It'd be great to have software specify 1/4-1/2" all around the edge of the screen as "no touch response" zones so you could comfortably grip those narrow bezels.

bookyboy · 11-23-2019, 09:25 PM

I'm contemplating trading in this Voyage and trying to time it all up with a Black Friday sale on the O3, + the $50 credit + the 25% off - makes it a very compelling all in price under $100 USD to go from Voyage to O3

Would you guys do that?

The O3 form factor is a non-starter for many in the Voyage/PW club I'd imagine - totally understand that angle.

Sirtel · 11-23-2019, 10:19 PM

I would. I like the form factor, the larger screen and the physical buttons. I was never particularly fond of the Voyage form factor (tiny bezels). Of course there are many people who think otherwise.

JSWolf · 11-23-2019, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by barryem

The new Paperwhite does have the option to disable touches. The screen won't react to any touch whatever but it will respond to swipes. Since I always swipe to turn pages anyway that should be ideal for me but it requires putting it to sleep and waking it up to turn that off if I want to do something with a menu or look up a word, so I don't use it.

If it would just stop turning pages on touch that would be ideal. However, I don't really have the problem of accidentally turning pages with the new Paperwhite.

Barry

Another thing Amazon stole from Kobo. It seems that Amazon cannot come up with good ideas and has to steal them from Kobo.

bookyboy · 11-23-2019, 11:09 PM

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Another thing Amazon stole from Kobo. It seems that Amazon cannot come up with good ideas and has to steal them from Kobo.

I wish they would steal some more of the customization that Kobo allows.

Honestly I don’t give a lick who steals from who as a user, I just want all the features deployed on as much hardware as possible.

JSWolf · 11-23-2019, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bookyboy

I wish they would steal some more of the customization that Kobo allows.

Honestly I don’t give a lick who steals from who as a user, I just want all the features deployed on as much hardware as possible.

Buy a Kobo and you have it.

bookyboy · 11-23-2019, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Buy a Kobo and you have it.

Sure...as soon as Kobo steals some of Amazon’s knowledge on how to make an even front light and one without a weird band along the handle.

See how this works?

They both have their issues (unfortunately)

Kindleing · 11-24-2019, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bookyboy

The O3 form factor is a non-starter for many in the Voyage/PW club I'd imagine - totally understand that angle.

I have never used a Voyage but I really like my Oasis 3. It fits my hands well, I find it comfortable to hold and the screen is fine for my use. I don't take it outside the house, so the larger size is not a problem for me. I really like the page turn buttons.

Paperbackstash · 11-25-2019, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bookyboy

@Tomk2 - lol

I'm laughing with you, not at you, by the way..

It actually makes me think that the PW3 might be better due to the screen being recessed a bit, but that model is quite a bit heavier unfortunately.

They just need way more work on the Kindle software. It'd be great to have software specify 1/4-1/2" all around the edge of the screen as "no touch response" zones so you could comfortably grip those narrow bezels.

The PW3 feels the same to me as the 4, they both feel lightweight. I know specs are a little lighter for the 4 but not where I can tell a difference when they're in my hand.

I agree with you that I wish they'd keep tweaking the software.

Tomk2 · 11-25-2019, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bookyboy

I'm contemplating trading in this Voyage and trying to time it all up with a Black Friday sale on the O3, + the $50 credit + the 25% off - makes it a very compelling all in price under $100 USD to go from Voyage to O3

Would you guys do that?

The O3 form factor is a non-starter for many in the Voyage/PW club I'd imagine - totally understand that angle.

That's a tough decision. I like the discount and the trade in cash. My Oasis 2 is growing on me the more I use it. The battery seems to drain faster than my Voyage and Paperwhite. I got my O2 for $150 a month or so ago, and my Voyage refurbished from Woot for $69 around the same time. I think my Voyage is still my favorite.

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bookyboy · 11-25-2019, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomk2

That's a tough decision. I like the discount and the trade in cash. My Oasis 2 is growing on me the more I use it. The battery seems to drain faster than my Voyage and Paperwhite. I got my O2 for $150 a month or so ago, and my Voyage refurbished from Woot for $69 around the same time. I think my Voyage is still my favorite.

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Interesting - thx for sharing.

Do you do a large percentage of reading at night/low light?

I find myself wondering how big of a thing it could be to have the warmer light since most all of my reading is dark/night situations.

patrickt · 11-25-2019, 12:07 PM

I'm glad Kindle has the Kindle ?, Paperwhite 4, and Oasis 3. It's nice to have choices that run from $60, today, to $350. Me? I prefer the Paperwhite 4 at $104, today. I had a Voyage and gave it to a college student who wanted a Kindle and had no money. I bought an Oasis 3, used it for two days and sent it back.

But, more than anything, it's the source of books I want to read that drives that device I get. As long as I get the books I want and the device works well, I'm happy. I know I'm spoiled now. It has to have a front light, has to have a touch screen, I prefer not having buttons, it has to have a normal, book-style cover, and it has to fit in my pocket for short stints. With that, and the books I want, I'm good to go.

When I get a new Kindle I get rid of my old ones. Right now I have two Kindle Paperwhite 4 and my old ones go to young students or old guys living on Social Security.

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11-23-2019, 07:11 PM	#16
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	The new Paperwhite does have the option to disable touches. The screen won't react to any touch whatever but it will respond to swipes. Since I always swipe to turn pages anyway that should be ideal for me but it requires putting it to sleep and waking it up to turn that off if I want to do something with a menu or look up a word, so I don't use it. If it would just stop turning pages on touch that would be ideal. However, I don't really have the problem of accidentally turning pages with the new Paperwhite. Barry

11-23-2019, 09:23 PM	#19
bookyboy Addict Posts: 311 Karma: 426284 Join Date: Oct 2019 Device: none	@Tomk2 - lol I'm laughing with you, not at you, by the way.. It actually makes me think that the PW3 might be better due to the screen being recessed a bit, but that model is quite a bit heavier unfortunately. They just need way more work on the Kindle software. It'd be great to have software specify 1/4-1/2" all around the edge of the screen as "no touch response" zones so you could comfortably grip those narrow bezels.

11-23-2019, 09:25 PM	#20
bookyboy Addict Posts: 311 Karma: 426284 Join Date: Oct 2019 Device: none	I'm contemplating trading in this Voyage and trying to time it all up with a Black Friday sale on the O3, + the $50 credit + the 25% off - makes it a very compelling all in price under $100 USD to go from Voyage to O3 Would you guys do that? The O3 form factor is a non-starter for many in the Voyage/PW club I'd imagine - totally understand that angle.

11-23-2019, 10:19 PM	#21
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,517 Karma: 240526511 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	I would. I like the form factor, the larger screen and the physical buttons. I was never particularly fond of the Voyage form factor (tiny bezels). Of course there are many people who think otherwise.

11-25-2019, 12:07 PM	#30
patrickt Wizard Posts: 1,221 Karma: 8381518 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico Device: Paperwhite 4 X 2	I'm glad Kindle has the Kindle ?, Paperwhite 4, and Oasis 3. It's nice to have choices that run from $60, today, to $350. Me? I prefer the Paperwhite 4 at $104, today. I had a Voyage and gave it to a college student who wanted a Kindle and had no money. I bought an Oasis 3, used it for two days and sent it back. But, more than anything, it's the source of books I want to read that drives that device I get. As long as I get the books I want and the device works well, I'm happy. I know I'm spoiled now. It has to have a front light, has to have a touch screen, I prefer not having buttons, it has to have a normal, book-style cover, and it has to fit in my pocket for short stints. With that, and the books I want, I'm good to go. When I get a new Kindle I get rid of my old ones. Right now I have two Kindle Paperwhite 4 and my old ones go to young students or old guys living on Social Security.

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