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Old 06-28-2019, 02:15 PM   #16
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That said, there have been a few hundred that I've chosen to cleanup to bend their typography to my preferences.
But have such issues been the results of the conversion process, or were they present in the original book? I suspect the latter!
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Old 06-28-2019, 02:38 PM   #17
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I’ve converted hundreds - probably over 1000 by now - books from Kindle format to ePub and vice versa over the years. The number which have required any sort of clean-up after conversion I could count on the fingers of one hand. Conversion using Calibre is easy and reliable.
I've needed to clean up numerous books over the years. Most often because of no/very bad table of contents or line breaks between each paragraph. This was due to the poor shape in which the books were sold rather than anything Calibre did during conversion.

I buy my books from Amazon and read on a Kobo. But even if I were a Kindle owner I would likely still wind up sideloading.
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Old 06-28-2019, 03:57 PM   #18
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I've needed to clean up numerous books over the years. Most often because of no/very bad table of contents or line breaks between each paragraph.
I can’t say I have the slightest interest in having a TOC in a novel. They’re much more useful for non-fiction, to be sure.
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Old 06-28-2019, 04:49 PM   #19
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I can’t say I have the slightest interest in having a TOC in a novel. They’re much more useful for non-fiction, to be sure.
It annoys me to not have one. To my mind it points to shoddy work.
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I've bought collections of short stories, notably the Lock and Key Classic Mystery and Detective one, which don't have TOCs or any indication of where one story ends and another begins. I had the same problem with a book of Jane Austen's Juvenilia. This was unreadable. I had no idea what or who I was reading, especially with the Lock and Key. It didn't cost much, about 99p from Amazon.
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These days converting is trivial. I can download a book from Amazon and have it on my Nook or Kobo in less than a minute. And it's just as easy to bulk convert a bunch of books at the same time.

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I can’t say I have the slightest interest in having a TOC in a novel. They’re much more useful for non-fiction, to be sure.
The first thing I do when I open up a new novel is look at the table of contents and find out where the post-book junk starts (advertisements, excerpts, etc.) Typically there will be 10 or so pages. However, once in a while there's a lot more. I like to know before I start reading that the novel actually ends on page 350 of 400 or whatever so I am not taken by surprise.

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Old 07-01-2019, 10:45 AM   #23
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The first thing I do when I open up a new novel is look at the table of contents and find out where the post-book junk starts (advertisements, excerpts, etc.) Typically there will be 10 or so pages. However, once in a while there's a lot more. I like to know before I start reading that the novel actually ends on page 350 of 400 or whatever so I am not taken by surprise.
That's what I do too, only I don't look at the TOC, but at the book files in the Calibre editor. Sometimes the junk is not in the TOC. And I always delete excerpts, ads and the like.
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That's what I do too, only I don't look at the TOC, but at the book files in the Calibre editor. Sometimes the junk is not in the TOC. And I always delete excerpts, ads and the like.
I don't use Calbire - I read mainly library books as-is. I think just about every book I have read has a table of contents. Even if they don't have every page of junk listed separately I can usually at least see where the last chapter/epilogue is and where any following material starts.
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An Android ereader like Onyx or Boyue will read the most formats uncoverted. Also Koreader and Coolreader on a Kobo or *Kindle will read most formats. I think the only difficult formats to read will be Amazon and Kobo's formats, kfx and kpub respectively. Out of those two, kpubs are easy to convert, kfx not so much. You're probably going to have to do some converting whatever route you take.

*Kindle will only run koreader if jailbroken, which is pretty much impossible nowadays. I don't reccommend a Kindle.

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I've bought collections of short stories, notably the Lock and Key Classic Mystery and Detective one, which don't have TOCs or any indication of where one story ends and another begins. I had the same problem with a book of Jane Austen's Juvenilia. This was unreadable. I had no idea what or who I was reading, especially with the Lock and Key. It didn't cost much, about 99p from Amazon.
That would really be frustrating. At a minimum, there ought to be a table of contents with links to the beginning of each separate book or story in the collection.
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...I think just about every book I have read has a table of contents...
I just purchased a book this weekend (Where Darkness Dwells or Little Whispers, I forget which) that had no table of contents. But I convert all my Amazon books to epub and run them through Sigil anyway, so I made one myself.
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I totally agree I just LOL at people who are so lazy they don't even want to tether their eReaders to their laptops anymore. Big brother owns them
So...where do you buy your e-books from? If you are buying them over the Internet, then "Big Brother" "owns" you as much as they do me. I don't know of any e-book seller these days that doesn't store your purchases in the cloud...whether you connect your e-reader to the cloud or not, the books you've bought are still stored there. Or, do you download all of your books from Gutenberg?

As for being "so lazy" that I don't want to tether my e-reader to my computer (desktop, by the way, not laptop), I guess I can say "guilty". I don't see any reason to store all of my books on my reader, and I never know what I'm going to want to read. I do keep enough on my reader that I won't be stuck without a book if I'm in a place with no connectivity, but I don't want to be limited to them.

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