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Old 07-27-2018, 11:40 PM   #16
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Thank you for letting me know that it is not possible as I was trying different ways to exit like on Android tablets. Looks like a limitation of the KA1.
But, this is not a tablet. It is a dedicated device intended to do one function. It doesn't need to implement any application swapping as it only runs one at a time. The interface is simple and clear on how to switch between different function.
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Have also tried to "remove" books from "my books" but it still shows up in "my books"; was able to remove the collection but not the books from 'my books'. Will be trying to remove the books from 'onboard' after I finish reading current book since I am unable, so far, to 'exit' the book (in nickle(?)) to go to 'onboard'.

I do see popups that state I can select remove ALL the books from the download or 'my books'; nothing agout just 1 or more books. Did see 'help' about removing a book after finishing reading to 'save space' but the 'remove' do not seem to work.

The Aura One do need a real file manager even tho some say it is not needed. Many ways to add a book but nothing about deleting/removing a book.
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I have deleted the books in 'onboard'. Now, where are 'my books' located? The books I 'removed' still shows up in 'my books' so the books must be stored some unknown directory.

Wonder if reviews ever add books or remove a book in their reviews. If not they are doing a crummy job.
I am confused by these two posts. At first I thought you were talking about KOReader, which I don't use. But the mention of collections implies you are talking about nickel. If so, what's the problem? You can delete books through the interface. Just long press on the book and select the option from the menu. Or, maybe, read the user guide, it does tell you how to do this. And I just checked it, the instructions are correct and I know they work. If you want to delete multiple books, then use the "Manage downloads" function.

The mention of "onboard" also confuses me. The only way I can think to know this exists is to telnet into the device. And if you are deleting books that way, then, no they won't disappear from the device library. Or is there a way to see this from KOReader and you are deleting them there and going back to nickel. Again, the books won't disappear from library. In both these cases, if you tried to open the book, you would get an error and, I think, get an option to remove it. It's been to long since I did that to remember. If you delete the book when it is connected to a PC, nickel will clean up when you disconnect.

If I'm missing something, then you need to explain what you are actually doing. The delete works. If it didn't for you, then state what you actually did so we can work out what went wrong.

And if you use a Kobo device as they are designed, there is absolutely no need for a file manager. If you are using other tools or applications, then it is up to them to supply the full range of functions needed.
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Old 07-28-2018, 01:20 AM   #17
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I have deleted the books in 'onboard'. Now, where are 'my books' located? The books I 'removed' still shows up in 'my books' so the books must be stored some unknown directory.

Wonder if reviews ever add books or remove a book in their reviews. If not they are doing a crummy job.
Are you deleting the books using KoReader's file manager? -- the reference to 'onboard' sounds like you are. This will not remove the entries from the SQLite database used by nickel. You might get some interesting error messages when you try to use nickel to open a book deleted by KoReader leaving the database in an inconsistent state.
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Old 07-28-2018, 02:20 PM   #18
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Are you deleting the books using KoReader's file manager? -- the reference to 'onboard' sounds like you are. This will not remove the entries from the SQLite database used by nickel. You might get some interesting error messages when you try to use nickel to open a book deleted by KoReader leaving the database in an inconsistent state.
I started to use nikel's dialogue to remove the book. The KA1 'flashed' to a brown/orange screen then to a screen with a prompt of whether to enable wifi then to the KSM start menu for selection of nikel or KOReader & other stuff. Looks to me like eventually, the KA1 feels like it rebooted Went thru the procedure several times with a couple of times just waiting to see what happens.

The delete from the 'onboard' was a last resort to delete the book.

Will do a factory reset after recharging the KA1. Hopefully the SQLite also gets reset. Did see 'interesting' msg about that I am not allowed to read a book because of DRM! Don't remember where I did the tap but was still able to read the book after ignoring the msg.
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Old 07-28-2018, 04:02 PM   #19
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I started to use nikel's dialogue to remove the book. The KA1 'flashed' to a brown/orange screen then to a screen with a prompt of whether to enable wifi then to the KSM start menu for selection of nikel or KOReader & other stuff. Looks to me like eventually, the KA1 feels like it rebooted Went thru the procedure several times with a couple of times just waiting to see what happens.

The delete from the 'onboard' was a last resort to delete the book.

Will do a factory reset after recharging the KA1. Hopefully the SQLite also gets reset. Did see 'interesting' msg about that I am not allowed to read a book because of DRM! Don't remember where I did the tap but was still able to read the book after ignoring the msg.
If it is helpful, I believe that logging out and back in on the Kobo device will reset the database.
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I started to use nikel's dialogue to remove the book. The KA1 'flashed' to a brown/orange screen then to a screen with a prompt of whether to enable wifi then to the KSM start menu for selection of nikel or KOReader & other stuff. Looks to me like eventually, the KA1 feels like it rebooted Went thru the procedure several times with a couple of times just waiting to see what happens.
I would love to find out how you got the eInk screen on a Kobo Aura One to flash brown/orange. I've never seen anything other than black/white/gray. You might want to consider trying to remove a book from your KA1 before installing KoReader which is not supplied nor supported by Kobo.

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Old 07-28-2018, 10:51 PM   #21
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I started to use nikel's dialogue to remove the book. The KA1 'flashed' to a brown/orange screen then to a screen with a prompt of whether to enable wifi then to the KSM start menu for selection of nikel or KOReader & other stuff. Looks to me like eventually, the KA1 feels like it rebooted Went thru the procedure several times with a couple of times just waiting to see what happens.
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I would love to find out how you got the eInk screen on a Kobo Aura One to flash brown/orange. I've never seen anything other than black/white/gray. You might want to consider trying to remove a book from your KA1 before installing KoReader which is not supplied nor supported by Kobo.
Whatever. the colors of the flashing is immaterial & depends on one's visual perception & the lighting environment. I saw the colors as somewhat different than gray.

The main point is why the screen flashing into different screens/menus when removing books?

Looks like I shouldn't even have posted any questions here.
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How have you removed the books? Long press and option remove book? I do it in that way frequently and it doesn't flash (and the book is removed).
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Whatever. the colors of the flashing is immaterial & depends on one's visual perception & the lighting environment. I saw the colors as somewhat different than gray.
Sorry, no "whatever". You asked for help supplying very little information that could be used to diagnose the problem. You then described what you were doing and mentioned something that seems to be impossible. If what your report was accurate, then it isn't expected. But, the Aura ONE has coloured lighting, so you have the colour set to a fairly orange colour, a blank screen flashed would probably look like you described. Though it might depend on if an all white or all black screen was flashed.
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The main point is why the screen flashing into different screens/menus when removing books?
What you described shouldn't happen. If you remove a purchased book, it might ask you to connect to the WiFi, but I wouldn't expect it to. If the WiFi connection isn't available, it should remove the file and update the internal database. The next sync will do whatever is needed with the server.

For sideloaded books, it shouldn't do anything with the WiFi. It should just remove the files and the database entries. And that is what I see here.

One of the things here is the timing. When you did the remove, did you see the prompt for where to remove it from? How long until the screen flashed white or whatever? If it was a minute or so, then it probably means the software hung and it was a sickel triggered reboot. But, I don't know how sickel would interact with KSM.

What did the WiFi prompt look like? Was it by itself or over some other screen? Did it let you do anything, or display and then go away?

The fact you ended up as the KSM menu suggests that nickel crashed and either the device rebooted or it returned to the KSM menu as if you had exited from nickel. If nickel crashed, there might be a log file giving an indication of what happened. This will be named "stack_nn.log".

My assumption is that there is a problem with the internal database and that is blocking something. The fix for that is to restore a backup or sign out of the Kobo account. The latter will rebuild the database from scratch. If that doesn't work, then a factory reset will probably be needed. Or, if you are having consistent problems, removing KSM to ensure that isn't interfering with things. It shouldn't, but what you report shouldn't be happening, so reverting to the default setup is the thing to do until you know what is happening.
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No, you should ask questions. But, you need to remember that everyone here is doing this on their own time. You need to ask questions with enough information that we can help. For example, I still don't know what you are doing when deleted from "onboard". I know of one thing that name would refer to, but I have no idea how you are getting to see this or delete from it.
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I started to use nikel's dialogue to remove the book. The KA1 'flashed' to a brown/orange screen then to a screen with a prompt of whether to enable wifi then to the KSM start menu for selection of nikel or KOReader & other stuff.
My first guess would be that you removed a KSM related "book" like exit_nickel.png. This caused nickel to exit. Since wifi was enabled KSM informed you about this.
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