|  06-29-2018, 11:27 AM | #16 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 5,862 Karma: 68407974 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles | 
			
			Picture books. Audiobooks. And the time-honoured tradition of sitting down with your child and reading together. These are all fine things.
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|  06-29-2018, 01:17 PM | #17 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 1,417 Karma: 30039536 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: UK Device: Kobo Forma, Icarus, iPad Mini 2, Kobo Touch, Google Nexus 7 | Quote: 
 The problem is that to appreciate the interaction the child needs understanding - and to get that they should be reading first. Watching pictures is awfully passive - it's like plonking the child down in front of the TV as a babysitter while you get on with other things. | |
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|  06-29-2018, 01:25 PM | #18 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | 
			
			Why? It clearly wasn't meant to be offensive. Nor would it apply to someone who clearly already "loves, adores reading."   Perhaps people shouldn't strive so hard to take offense where none was given. Last edited by DiapDealer; 06-29-2018 at 01:30 PM. | 
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|  06-29-2018, 01:30 PM | #19 | 
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			Some children and human beings in general have difficulties with reading or find reading downright boring.  What factors would you attribute that to, except for lack of practice and diseases? From personal experience, do you read faster, slower or no change in pace when you read using an ebook (or on any digital device) in comparision to a physical book (or any physical paper)? Do you have an idea why that is so? Are there any company other than Amazon´s Kindle´s X-Ray features that have content enhancing feature? Last edited by tomfyhr; 06-29-2018 at 01:42 PM. | 
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|  06-29-2018, 01:42 PM | #20 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | 
			
			Why on earth should we change the reading experience to cater to those who find it "downright boring?" If you find it boring (or don't like it), then do something else. Which, by the way, is all I was trying to say with my first post. Quote: 
 Because reading the words of a book is reading the words of a book. Last edited by DiapDealer; 06-29-2018 at 01:45 PM. | |
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|  06-29-2018, 01:51 PM | #21 | |
| Enthusiast  Posts: 27 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2018 Device: none | Quote: 
 Children and young adults are more prone to consume material that stimulate their senses more, which is simply not the case with the traditional book since it does not take into account the ears or the eyes (except for reading of course). Today there are even trailers for books that target that demographic, which was something unheard of a decade ago, and it is a marketing ploy to emulate film industry, which children nowadays are so attached to. In addition, I would assume the companies would make the extra content optional to consume with an on/off-switch, if that would in fact become a reality. Last edited by tomfyhr; 06-29-2018 at 01:56 PM. | |
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|  06-29-2018, 01:56 PM | #22 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 2,735 Karma: 75825105 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: PDXish Device: Kindle Voyage, various Android devices | Quote: 
 Yes, some people cannot engage in reading due to physical or other constraints. (There are existing work-arounds for many of them though.) But some people just don't enjoy reading and for them it has nothing to do with "lack of practice and diseases." Changing reading into a video game or interactive television isn't going to get more people reading. It will get the same people who already play video games to play, possibly, different video games. It is 100% possible to find / build better work-arounds for some people but trying to treat everyone who finds reading boring as "readers who lack practice or have a disease" is not going to help anyone. | |
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|  06-29-2018, 02:02 PM | #23 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | 
			
			No. It wasn't rhetorical at all. Quote: 
 Yes. And I find book "trailers" to be infinitely stupid as well. You used the perfect word to describe them (and the technique of selling books to people who don't want to read in general) yourself. That word is "ploy." | |
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|  06-29-2018, 02:13 PM | #24 | |
| Enthusiast  Posts: 27 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2018 Device: none | Quote: 
 And that concept of having pictures could be expanded upon to encompass all characters and scenes in a novel, especially in ebooks since publishing colored illustrations is not as expensive anymore since it is digital. (Note: it still roughly costs the same to produce the illustrations but not when it is published to the masses) Last edited by tomfyhr; 06-30-2018 at 01:11 AM. | |
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|  06-29-2018, 02:57 PM | #25 | |
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | Quote: 
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|  06-29-2018, 04:42 PM | #26 | |
| eReader Wrangler            Posts: 7,949 Karma: 53216495 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boise, ID Device: PB HD3, GL3, Voyage | Quote: 
 And as you say, there are already many ways for non-readers to enjoy not reading. You don't need to re-engineer eBooks to create another platform for non-readers not to read. | |
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|  06-29-2018, 07:17 PM | #27 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,074 Karma: 12500000 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Okanagan Device: Sony PRS-650, Kobo Clara | 
			
			I hope to see books with all levels of enhancement, with a large percentage having almost none.  The act of seeing the story as it's created, just from the author's words, is unique.  Not everyone enjoys that, but readers do.  The other stuff is fine, though.  I'm sure there will be a use for it.
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|  06-29-2018, 09:47 PM | #28 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 3,108 Karma: 60231510 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Kindle Oasis, Huwei Ascend Mate 7 | Quote: 
 I'll repeat once more. This multimedia hybrid experience is available on the web now. It is available in apps for IOS and Android. It is available in games and movies. It is available on the web and on phones and tablets. What it usually comprises is a hybrid of old technologies masquerading as revolutionary new technology, and seeking to market to readers by calling it a book. Here is one example: Editions at Play I may even try Breathe, the free Ghost Story which is of course best "read" on my mobile device and will keep me entertained for a whole 20 minutes. Seriously, I may enjoy it. But I don't see it as a book, nor am I particularly attracted to it as a reader. I'll let you know if I change my mind after trying it. Does anyone have any actual experience of using this type of product? | |
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|  06-29-2018, 10:20 PM | #29 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 5,862 Karma: 68407974 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles | Quote: 
 I thought you were talking about interactive multimedia "experiences", which are a very different thing. | |
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|  06-29-2018, 10:33 PM | #30 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 3,108 Karma: 60231510 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Kindle Oasis, Huwei Ascend Mate 7 | 
			
			And these interactive multimedia "experiences" are available now in a number of different formats.  And can be implemented using current ebook standards, but seldom are.  For good reason.
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