Sony Reader to be introduced in Holland in 2009 - Page 2

mazzeltjes · 09-30-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Yes, I heard your gals just started wearing hoop skirts.

BOb

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Olympus · 10-15-2008, 08:23 AM

Iliad is way too expensive to display to the public and NRC is not the succes as we all had hoped.
I imported my CyBook to the Netherlands via the US as the EU price is not helping popularizing ebook devices. While my CyBook is most open to all e-book formats Sony trying to get into the Dutch market with their own e-book format is not going to make it.
Our Dutch e-book market is too small for a format-war.

A library in Almere/Lelystad is experimenting with e-books In Dutch an article on biblion.nl activities

May I remind you all that the Dutch embrace new technology: CD's, DVD's were more common while the rest of the world was still working with phono-gram rolls

grimo1re · 10-15-2008, 08:34 AM

Well, this is certainly good news. The Dutch e-book market needs a bit more choice. Well, what it really needs is some zest, energy, and *new* devices and books. Sony is making a start but does that mean they'll sell Dutch books in the Connect store?

HarryT · 10-18-2008, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by grimo1re

Well, this is certainly good news. The Dutch e-book market needs a bit more choice. Well, what it really needs is some zest, energy, and *new* devices and books. Sony is making a start but does that mean they'll sell Dutch books in the Connect store?

How many Dutch eBooks are actually published, as a matter of interest?

grimo1re · 10-18-2008, 05:38 AM

I don't have any numbers, but one major bookseller chain (Selexyz) says it's got 50,000 e-books. They sell in Mobipocket (they've got a deal with Irex and also sell the iLiad) and some PDF. I'm quite happy they've moved into the e-book market but, as a Sony Reader user, not so happy about the Mobipocket thing. An independent e-book seller is also heavy on the Mobipocket side. Either way there's some stuff happening but the most well known, and I reckon most sold, device is the iLiad. We need more choice here.

HarryT · 10-18-2008, 05:44 AM

I'm surprised there are so many available - that sounds excellent!

It's the wide range of different sources of MobiPocket books that made me decide to standardise on that format. I hope that Sony do come up with a good range of Dutch books when the Reader is officially launched in the Netherlands.

pilotbob · 10-18-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by grimo1re

I'm quite happy they've moved into the e-book market but, as a Sony Reader user, not so happy about the Mobipocket thing.

Sounds like you need to learn to "liberate" mobi ebooks as I'm sure many Sony users already liberate lit ebooks.

BOb

HarryT · 10-18-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Sounds like you need to learn to "liberate" mobi ebooks as I'm sure many Sony users already liberate lit ebooks.

BOb

But if you're going to do that, why bother buying a Sony in the first place, especially given the fact that the CyBook is considerably cheaper these days?

pilotbob · 10-18-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

But if you're going to do that, why bother buying a Sony in the first place, especially given the fact that the CyBook is considerably cheaper these days?

Well, they already had a Sony reader and I was just trying to help. In the US I can still get the Sony 505 for $100 (or more) less than the CyBook. I get a great device, better customer service, in country repair facility, etc. There are still reasons to buy a Sony over a CyBook.

BOb

HarryT · 10-18-2008, 12:37 PM

If you live in the US, that's true. There are, I think, rather fewer reasons for people elsewhere. Although nobody could question the fact that the Sony is better constructed than the Gen3, I far prefer the Gen3 in terms of its software capabilities. What we need is a machine with the build-quality of the Sony which has decent MobiPocket support

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pilotbob · 10-18-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

If you live in the US, that's true. There are, I think, rather fewer reasons for people elsewhere.

Yep to each his own. If you are not in a country where the Sony is officially sold the advantages certainly go down.

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Although nobody could question the fact that the Sony is better constructed than the Gen3

Did you just type that?

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Originally Posted by HarryT

, I far prefer the Gen3 in terms of its software capabilities. What we need is a machine with the build-quality of the Sony which has decent MobiPocket support

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Really, you prefer the CyBook? Wow, who knew.

BOb

HarryT · 10-18-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Did you just type that?

Sure, having owned both a Sony and a Gen3, I'd be a bit of an idiot to try and deny something so blantantly obvious, don't you think?

What I dispute is whether the higher build quality of the Sony means that it suffers fewer screen breakages. Having a "prettier" case doesn't mean that it's any more resistant to damage.

mazzeltjes · 10-19-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by grimo1re

I don't have any numbers, but one major bookseller chain (Selexyz) says it's got 50,000 e-books. They sell in Mobipocket (they've got a deal with Irex and also sell the iLiad) and some PDF. I'm quite happy they've moved into the e-book market but, as a Sony Reader user, not so happy about the Mobipocket thing. An independent e-book seller is also heavy on the Mobipocket side. Either way there's some stuff happening but the most well known, and I reckon most sold, device is the iLiad. We need more choice here.

Oh true enough, they've got 50.000 or more books.
The problem is that they are mainly English language, not Dutch.
That was the point I was trying to make earlier on, if they don't come
with Dutch books I think the launch hasn't got much of a chance.

athlonkmf · 10-19-2008, 12:43 PM

The list of dutch ebooks does not exceed 900 (that's ninehundred)

grimo1re · 10-20-2008, 03:28 AM

900! Eeeek, I never really looked that closely! That sucks!

@Pilotbob: I haven't had a chance yet to sit down and 'liberate' mobi books...haven't really had a need to either.
And @HarryT: I bought a Sony as my choices at the time were an iLiad or a Sony. Didn't have the dosh for the iLiad so I bought the Sony. And still happy with it too :-)

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10-15-2008, 08:23 AM	#17
Olympus Connoisseur Posts: 72 Karma: 542 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Rocket & Bookeen CyGen 3	Iliad is way too expensive to display to the public and NRC is not the succes as we all had hoped. I imported my CyBook to the Netherlands via the US as the EU price is not helping popularizing ebook devices. While my CyBook is most open to all e-book formats Sony trying to get into the Dutch market with their own e-book format is not going to make it. Our Dutch e-book market is too small for a format-war. A library in Almere/Lelystad is experimenting with e-books In Dutch an article on biblion.nl activities May I remind you all that the Dutch embrace new technology: CD's, DVD's were more common while the rest of the world was still working with phono-gram rolls

10-15-2008, 08:34 AM	#18
grimo1re Geekette Posts: 435 Karma: 3335 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NSW, Australia Device: Sony Reader PRS500, PocketBook 360	Well, this is certainly good news. The Dutch e-book market needs a bit more choice. Well, what it really needs is some zest, energy, and new devices and books. Sony is making a start but does that mean they'll sell Dutch books in the Connect store?

10-18-2008, 05:38 AM	#20
grimo1re Geekette Posts: 435 Karma: 3335 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NSW, Australia Device: Sony Reader PRS500, PocketBook 360	I don't have any numbers, but one major bookseller chain (Selexyz) says it's got 50,000 e-books. They sell in Mobipocket (they've got a deal with Irex and also sell the iLiad) and some PDF. I'm quite happy they've moved into the e-book market but, as a Sony Reader user, not so happy about the Mobipocket thing. An independent e-book seller is also heavy on the Mobipocket side. Either way there's some stuff happening but the most well known, and I reckon most sold, device is the iLiad. We need more choice here.

10-18-2008, 05:44 AM	#21
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,557 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I'm surprised there are so many available - that sounds excellent! It's the wide range of different sources of MobiPocket books that made me decide to standardise on that format. I hope that Sony do come up with a good range of Dutch books when the Reader is officially launched in the Netherlands.

10-18-2008, 12:37 PM	#25
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,557 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	If you live in the US, that's true. There are, I think, rather fewer reasons for people elsewhere. Although nobody could question the fact that the Sony is better constructed than the Gen3, I far prefer the Gen3 in terms of its software capabilities. What we need is a machine with the build-quality of the Sony which has decent MobiPocket support .

10-19-2008, 12:43 PM	#29
athlonkmf Guru Posts: 714 Karma: 1014039 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-500, Sony PRS-505, Kindle 3, Sony PRS350, iPad 64GB	The list of dutch ebooks does not exceed 900 (that's ninehundred)

10-20-2008, 03:28 AM	#30
grimo1re Geekette Posts: 435 Karma: 3335 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NSW, Australia Device: Sony Reader PRS500, PocketBook 360	900! Eeeek, I never really looked that closely! That sucks! @Pilotbob: I haven't had a chance yet to sit down and 'liberate' mobi books...haven't really had a need to either. And @HarryT: I bought a Sony as my choices at the time were an iLiad or a Sony. Didn't have the dosh for the iLiad so I bought the Sony. And still happy with it too :-)

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