New Westeros book incoming... - Page 2

sealbeater · 04-26-2018, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fjtorres

Martin's book delays aren't out of laziness. It's just that he really enjoys working the Hollywood side more than the writing.

This. He's finally gotten his heart's desire.

drofgnal · 04-28-2018, 05:57 AM

Plus the fact he can't write during football season and miss his beloved Jets.

pwalker8 · 04-28-2018, 06:25 AM

While this particular case doesn't effect me, it does bring to mind one of my biggest pet peeves - the unfinished series. I would probably be more than a bit miffed at Martin if I were actually a fan of the series. I felt the same way about Robert Jordan and the WOT series and to a certain extent David Weber's Honor Harrington series. I have no idea what Patrick Rothfuss's issue is. I get he writes slow, but dang, it's been 7 years.

Philippe D. · 04-30-2018, 05:59 AM

There's already been so many differences between the plots of the books and the series, I wouldn't mind if Winds of Winter ended differently than the TV show. But I'd really, really like to read the book at some point - the show is good, but still, IMHO, not as good as the books.

(Yes, I'm still a big fan. Not at all like the WOT, which I ended up dragging my feet to finish - though finish it I did)

ZodWallop · 04-30-2018, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pwalker8

I felt the same way about Robert Jordan and the WOT series...

I only vaguely know about the Wheel of Time. But didn't Jordan die before writing the final book? It sounds like it was a bit beyond his control.

Philippe D. · 04-30-2018, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

I only vaguely know about the Wheel of Time. But didn't Jordan die before writing the final book? It sounds like it was a bit beyond his control.

He did, and he even arranged for another writer (Brandon Sanderson) to finish the series after his death.

pwalker8 · 04-30-2018, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

I only vaguely know about the Wheel of Time. But didn't Jordan die before writing the final book? It sounds like it was a bit beyond his control.

He did, on the other hand, he started to drag the series out more and more and more. I suspect that if he were still alive, it still wouldn't be finished.

ZodWallop · 04-30-2018, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pwalker8

He did, on the other hand, he started to drag the series out more and more and more. I suspect that if he were still alive, it still wouldn't be finished.

Yeah, series bloat is a real problem. Of course, one person's bloat is another person's 'richer, deeper experience.'

GlenBarrington · 04-30-2018, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

I only vaguely know about the Wheel of Time. But didn't Jordan die before writing the final book? It sounds like it was a bit beyond his control.

That's what he wanted everyone to think!

kyteflyer · 04-30-2018, 12:37 PM

It all sort of reminds me of Rocky #25. Just goes on... and on... and on... I bought season 7 of GoT, and then realised I had seen it already over here during a 2 week freebie on Foxtel. It was completely unmemorable. I expect the next season to be the same. I hoped Cersei would get hers, but she didnt. I think he will let her live on forever. As for the books... I started reading the first and only got a few pages into it, looked at how much there was to go, and realised that there were other books I would rather read. Havent picked it up again since then.

GlennD · 04-30-2018, 01:47 PM

After starting the Wheel of Time around the time the fourth book came out, and waiting decades for the ending, I refuse to even glance at Game of Thrones until it is complete. Martin's age and health make me lack confidence that he will actually finish it.

Katsunami · 04-30-2018, 09:01 PM

Same with me; I'm not going to even start the SoIaF series before it's finished. Same with that huge series Sanderson is writing.

I learned my lesson when I was reading the Shannara series in Dutch, and suddenly the publisher stopped translating and publishing, leaving a trilogy unfinished for years. Therefore, these days, I only start series that are finished.

GlennD · 05-01-2018, 01:52 PM

I've held out for now on Sanderson's Stormlight Archive as well, but I'm thinking about starting it. Sanderson has two things going for him that Martin does not - he's young and (presumably) healthy, and he's prolific as heck. He churns out several books a year at times. He's also transparent - you can go to his blog and get a good idea of the status of the book you're waiting for.

pwalker8 · 05-02-2018, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Katsunami

Same with me; I'm not going to even start the SoIaF series before it's finished. Same with that huge series Sanderson is writing.

I learned my lesson when I was reading the Shannara series in Dutch, and suddenly the publisher stopped translating and publishing, leaving a trilogy unfinished for years. Therefore, these days, I only start series that are finished.

I don't have an issue starting a series before it's over, but abandoning a series before the story line is resolved will get an author dropped from my buy list. A lot really depends what sort of series it is, i.e. is it a series like Glen Cook's Garrett series where each book is more or less self contained, or is it a series like WOT where there is ongoing story line that each book moves the story line along (or not as was the case of some of the books in that series).

DiapDealer · 05-02-2018, 08:53 AM

It mostly depends on the individual author's track record, whether or not I'll start an unfinished series (as well as what kind of series it is: serial vs. complete installments).

If the author has no track record, then I wait to see one develop. If the author has a history of publishing regularly and often, then I'll consider picking the series up before its finished.

Martin, Rothfuss, and Lynch are on my "don't even think about it until it's done" list (and often, I lose interest in those authors and don't return anyway).

I wouldn't hesitate to start a Brandon Sanderson series, though. If I liked his writing style at all, of course. Waaaay to world-buildy and magical-systemy/lessony for my tastes. Figures.

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04-28-2018, 05:57 AM	#17
drofgnal Wizard Posts: 1,405 Karma: 10519918 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Ipad Pro/Kindle Oasis 3/iPhone 13 Pro Max	Plus the fact he can't write during football season and miss his beloved Jets.

04-28-2018, 06:25 AM	#18
pwalker8 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,196 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2	While this particular case doesn't effect me, it does bring to mind one of my biggest pet peeves - the unfinished series. I would probably be more than a bit miffed at Martin if I were actually a fan of the series. I felt the same way about Robert Jordan and the WOT series and to a certain extent David Weber's Honor Harrington series. I have no idea what Patrick Rothfuss's issue is. I get he writes slow, but dang, it's been 7 years.

04-30-2018, 05:59 AM	#19
Philippe D. Addict Posts: 276 Karma: 3600000 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: France Device: Kobo Aura H2o; reMarkable; Onyx Max 2 Pro	There's already been so many differences between the plots of the books and the series, I wouldn't mind if Winds of Winter ended differently than the TV show. But I'd really, really like to read the book at some point - the show is good, but still, IMHO, not as good as the books. (Yes, I'm still a big fan. Not at all like the WOT, which I ended up dragging my feet to finish - though finish it I did)

04-30-2018, 12:37 PM	#25
kyteflyer Wizard Posts: 1,844 Karma: 9547754 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Newcastle, Australia Device: iPhone 12 Mini	It all sort of reminds me of Rocky #25. Just goes on... and on... and on... I bought season 7 of GoT, and then realised I had seen it already over here during a 2 week freebie on Foxtel. It was completely unmemorable. I expect the next season to be the same. I hoped Cersei would get hers, but she didnt. I think he will let her live on forever. As for the books... I started reading the first and only got a few pages into it, looked at how much there was to go, and realised that there were other books I would rather read. Havent picked it up again since then.

04-30-2018, 01:47 PM	#26
GlennD Wizard Posts: 2,119 Karma: 17500000 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Pacific NW Device: sony PRS350, iPhone, iPad	After starting the Wheel of Time around the time the fourth book came out, and waiting decades for the ending, I refuse to even glance at Game of Thrones until it is complete. Martin's age and health make me lack confidence that he will actually finish it.

04-30-2018, 09:01 PM	#27
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	Same with me; I'm not going to even start the SoIaF series before it's finished. Same with that huge series Sanderson is writing. I learned my lesson when I was reading the Shannara series in Dutch, and suddenly the publisher stopped translating and publishing, leaving a trilogy unfinished for years. Therefore, these days, I only start series that are finished.

05-01-2018, 01:52 PM	#28
GlennD Wizard Posts: 2,119 Karma: 17500000 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Pacific NW Device: sony PRS350, iPhone, iPad	I've held out for now on Sanderson's Stormlight Archive as well, but I'm thinking about starting it. Sanderson has two things going for him that Martin does not - he's young and (presumably) healthy, and he's prolific as heck. He churns out several books a year at times. He's also transparent - you can go to his blog and get a good idea of the status of the book you're waiting for.

05-02-2018, 08:53 AM	#30
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,643 Karma: 204624552 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	It mostly depends on the individual author's track record, whether or not I'll start an unfinished series (as well as what kind of series it is: serial vs. complete installments). If the author has no track record, then I wait to see one develop. If the author has a history of publishing regularly and often, then I'll consider picking the series up before its finished. Martin, Rothfuss, and Lynch are on my "don't even think about it until it's done" list (and often, I lose interest in those authors and don't return anyway). I wouldn't hesitate to start a Brandon Sanderson series, though. If I liked his writing style at all, of course. Waaaay to world-buildy and magical-systemy/lessony for my tastes. Figures.

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