Coming 2nd version of Onyx Note without light

[blue_skies]

Originally Posted by mdp

None of my business, but if you rely on the frontlight to get a "correct ambience", your eyes will not be grateful.

This wasn't directed at me, but my eyes would be extremely grateful for a frontlight.

My eyes even do much better looking at a backlit device compared to a non-lit eReader or paperbook, which makes my vision go completely blurry within an hour or less, and usually causes a bad headache.

On the other hand, I can read my Boyue eInk eReader with the frontlight on for hours with no problem, or stare at a LED or OLED monitor all day with no discomfort or vision problems.

I know... it's heretical to admit that unlit eInk strains my eyes so terribly, but that's what happens.

[Randy11]

Originally Posted by blue_skies

I know... it's heretical to admit that unlit eInk strains my eyes so terribly, but that's what happens.

Not heretical. I suppose that when you read 'non-lit eReader' or a paper book you haven't enough light, it's necessary to care of this.
Back-light is useful if you forbid if to check the ambiance light.

[Randy11]

Originally Posted by eReader fan

About microSD slot, I reallyl don't understand why people care so much about that when there are may ways to transfer files between two devices when both are connected to the same LAN, have wifi or bluetooth antena. Even there is the posibility of plugging a USB OTG cable with a 8€ mini card reader.

Wifi and Bluetooth could not be used in my case, too many questions about the security, the SD-CARD is the good solution.
You can have many SD-CARD, one by subject or activity : personal or professional per example.
In a professional context is very important.

Even Android is a problem in a professional context, Windows is preferred because it is easiest to secure it.

USB OTG is not a direct solution only a clever do-it-yourself : customized cable plus power supply. If you miss it, you could damage the Max2. You haven't the comfort of an SD-Card reader in the card reader.

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by mdp

I stand even more corrected, because in the full list at
https://www.eink.com/modules.html
I see that the low resolution 13.3 display is glass based.
ED133UT2 | 13.3 | 1600 x 1200 | 270.40 x 202.80 | 150 | Carta 1.2 | Glass

I thought that, out of frailty, they could not use glass at those sizes.

That will depend on usage and whether weight is an issue or not. Plus last I checked common window glass is pretty sturdy. The bigger displays (31.2" and 42") only come with glass. They are not meant to be moved, but wall mount only. What I want to see is a foldable device someone hopefully build soon as shown here:
https://youtu.be/D-kYQ61A-s4
(also shows the 42" display in action)

[mdp]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

What I want to see is a foldable device someone hopefully build soon as shown here:
https://youtu.be/D-kYQ61A-s4
(also shows the 42" display in action)

It comes with an Achille Castiglioni's Arco replica to front-lighten it!

EDIT: I must say I am really impressed by the 42''.

[DaleDe]

Originally Posted by eReader fan

This topic it's being so disgusting to me hahaha

stuff removed.

Bigger than 9'7" never, but if Note is 10'3" and my Onyx N96ML+ of 9'7" has a perfect frontlight sure it's not a problem of 0'6" more. And the clip isn't a practical solution. Maybe a well designed cover with some leds it could be a good option, but that's not the case

I think 9.7" (not 9 feet 7 inches) is really not perfect but acceptable. It is a long way to shoot a beam of light from the edge of the glass. It does reduce brightness at the far end. I would expect that if 10.3" gets more attention and becomes more popular a method will be devised to make a frontlight. E Ink themselves usually makes the assembly that includes the frontlight.

Dale

[blue_skies]

Originally Posted by Randy11

Not heretical. I suppose that when you read 'non-lit eReader' or a paper book you haven't enough light, it's necessary to care of this.
Back-light is useful if you forbid if to check the ambiance light.

Even with decent ambient light, my ereader is much better with the front-light turned on to the lowest setting, because that improves the contrast so much. The background is so much whiter with the front-light turned on, even at the lowest possible level.

Higher contast = less eye strain for me.

[John F]

Originally Posted by blue_skies

Even with decent ambient light, my ereader is much better with the front-light turned on to the lowest setting, because that improves the contrast so much. The background is so much whiter with the front-light turned on, even at the lowest possible level.

Higher contast = less eye strain for me.

+1

No front light, no sale. I'd be willing to compromise on other features, and even the front light doesn't need to be perfect, but it must have a front light.

[hkckoo]

okay, so boox note has like 340% bigger battery compared to kobo aura one. they also claim "Lowest power consumption" on their page, though I dont know what they were comparing it to. the display is only 2.5 inches bigger than KA1. onyx boox note states 1 month standby time, thats what I get on my kobo aura one. so what gives? doesnt make sense.


anyone have any real world battery usage to share?

[mdp]

Originally Posted by hkckoo

okay, so boox note [...] the display is only 2.5 inches bigger than KA1

That's 75% more.

[Deskisamess]

Originally Posted by mdp

None of my business, but if you rely on the frontlight to get a "correct ambience", your eyes will not be grateful.

Lack of lighting is worse than front lighting, as far as eye health is concerned.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by Deskisamess

Lack of lighting is worse than front lighting, as far as eye health is concerned.

OP: <<Rellying on the ambient light of your house it means maybe the next place you will be going with your eReader it's not well illuminated>>

Myself: "For the health of one eyes ambience must be prepared... Frontlght or not"

[hkckoo]

Originally Posted by mdp

That's 75% more.

well even if it was 100% more, the battery is still quite bigger. so i dont understand why every ereader device in existence has 1 month standby.

so thats what I wanted to know. does the boox note use some kind of subpar batteries to get these results? or is the HW not optimized correctly? because otherwise it sure looks like they pulled the claim "Lowest power consumption" out of thin air.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by hkckoo

why every ereader device in existence has 1 month standby

That's just a gross indication for an order of magnitude.

You correctly asked for real world data, just do not forget that: there should be a standardized test which includes both "battery drain in mAh for 1h of device on but idle, with all radios turned off" and "battery drain in mAh with a standardized process ongoing". All of this is doable, all may not be really telling, as mileage varies with usage.

Exact data is not widly publicized because with that rate, recharging the device every once in a while is not a problem. They don't do it on smart watches, which may not last the day (they do, and present unusable figures).

Note anyway that there is a possibly chief factor: raw CPU speed. One device may be very responsive, but with the drawback of draining battery faster. Current Onyx devices mount a CPU that is a marvel of power efficiency (Cortex A17), and nonetheless drinks more than a Cortex B-bradipus.

And also note that Android as an OS require more beefy hardware, hence possibly heightened consumptions - as a price paid by the members of its market placement, who want a flexible device that offers more than the embedded software.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by hkckoo

well even if it was 100% more,

100% more of 7.8'' would be 11'' almost sharp ; )