Calibre Issues

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Timboli

If every word is capitalized, you know without a doubt it is a title.

With a title such as Eye of the Needle, not all of the words are supposed to be capitalized. It's incorrect if all words are capitalized.

[Timboli]

Originally Posted by deback

I use the F2 button to manually rename single files. If I have lots of files to rename, then I use the Ant Renamer software, which is great to quickly rename files.

I just use the Renamer program.
But that is not at play here, as most of the ebook files either have non-descript file names or partial ones.

Originally Posted by deback

Then after I've dragged the files into Calibre ...........

I don't know if any of the above will answer any of your questions, but this is what I do, and the results are fantastic.

Thanks for that info, and it is always interesting to hear how others do things, and though not relevant in my case, I do any editing required, using Sigil, and sometimes some of my own companion programs I have created for specific things.

In this instance, like my story in first post indicates, I am just doing some pretty quick basic things, and avoiding having to go to too much trouble, as I do this most days, and the quicker the better, as it is a chore enough.

And all is done for backup purposes really, or just for the day I decide to change to a device that needs a specific file type.

As my database in calibre grows bigger and bigger, I like to keep it well managed, and part of that is how titles and names etc look. I like to know at a glance that it is a title, extraneous text removed.

[Timboli]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

With a title such as Eye of the Needle, not all of the words are supposed to be capitalized. It's incorrect if all words are capitalized.

No point arguing really, as you clearly believe that.

I don't. It looks like descriptive text to me, not a title ... especially when used in a sentence.

Eye Of The Needle, leaves no illusions as to what it is, a title.

Titles aren't necessarily descriptive, if anything they are a label.

[dwig]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

With a title such as Eye of the Needle, not all of the words are supposed to be capitalized. It's incorrect if all words are capitalized.

True for American English and most English localizations, but not true in all localizations. In some languages, an sometimes specifically to local variants of of those languages, the rules are different. This presents a problem for any utility to automagically reformat the case usage in a title.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Timboli

Eye Of The Needle, leaves no illusions as to what it is, a title.

What it does is it looks wrong because it is. It looks like someone who doesnt know proper capitalization. It just screams WRONG!. So let's go back the the correct capitalization which is Eye of the Needle. That says it's a title because of the mixing of caps and non-caps.

[Timboli]

Originally Posted by theducks

1.41 Are you on XP? At least get 1.48 (the last that ran on that platform)

If you don't have a free 'system maintenance person' fixing things, you probably spent more than a more modern 'Refurb" would cost
I am surprised that such an old system is still functioning. Almost every system (major, business class, brands) need some sort of $$ repair in 5 years.
HD, CPU/GPU Fans, PSU, CD/DVD, RAM

Only on my old laptop. For what I do there, v1.41 works fine ... and I never update for the sake of updating, there always needs to be a reason.

And the Laptop still works fine.
I keep it offline, and use it mostly as a project machine.
I replaced the HDD once, because I wanted a bigger drive, and added some RAM, all else is original.
I do use with external keyboard, mouse and monitor though.
And it sees a lot of external HDD use.

Much of what you say is strictly not true. If you buy a decent system in the first place, I find it can last you many many years, especially if you treat it well, including cleaning out the dust now and then, perhaps reinstalling Windows on occasion.

Still a damn good machine, and more than adequate for what I use it for.

It is a home machine though, not a work one, so no doubt treated more respectfully, had less tinkering perhaps, but certainly in my case, worked as hard, if not harder, than many work machines.

P.S. All my computers last me a long time. Even my old Apple IIE (first computer) probably still works, I just retired it when I moved on, same with my first Windows PC. I've retired a few, but all were working fine when I did it. All except my Win XP beast of a desktop, which I built myself, and probably drove too hard, as it developed a mysterious ailment ... probably due to the huge number of things that ran on it (3 optical drives, 3 big HHD, Superdisk, etc). It was built just before Dual Core came out, its only failing really (that and no SSD) ... apart from what seemed to be a mysterious motherboard ailment. It stopped working not long after I added a Blu-ray burner to it.

[Timboli]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

What it does is it looks wrong because it is. It looks like someone who doesnt know proper capitalization. It just screams WRONG!. So let's go back the the correct capitalization which is Eye of the Needle. That says it's a title because of the mixing of caps and non-caps.

LOL. Then you will hate that I do that to music track names and album titles, and most of all you will probably hate that in my world, all artist/group names must be fully uppercase.

DEEP PURPLE - Smoke On The Water
DEEP PURPLE - Highway Star - Smoke On The Water

I know instantly in my huge collection, which has all sorts of titles and names, what is the artist name and what a title.

[deback]

Here you go - the actual Rules for Capitalization in Titles (it's true that certain words are NOT to be capitalized, such as, in, the, an, a, from, etc--when these words are between the first and last words in the title...)

http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/ca...in-titles.html

You can find 3.42 million more pages about this by searching at Google for this:

should all words in a title be capitalized

[fidvo]

Originally Posted by Timboli

Don't believe that for a moment. Makes no logical sense.
What facts?

A lot of people don't believe in the Moon Landing, but that doesn't make that belief true.


Who's definition?


Not asking for that, would just like an extra button that does TRUE titlecase.

Further to that, when you look at some text, and due to mixed capitalization it looks like a sentence, then it is a sentence. If every word is capitalized, you know without a doubt it is a title.

Sigh. I apologize; I wasn't trying to make you defensive. I was just trying to clear up a misconception.

When I said you should check the facts, I wasn't asking you to do anything I didn't already do. You claimed that title case means that all words in the title should have the first letter in uppercase. So I googled it, to make sure I hadn't been wrong all these years.

Pretty much everything linked to from the first page of the search results state quite clearly that book titles should have some words in lowercase. I didn't look beyond that, because that was confirmation enough.

So yes, I am quite confident in stating that the definition I gave you is the correct one. Not a "well, a lot of people agree with me" definition, but THE correct definition.

By the way, I found it ironic that you called me out for being akin to a moon landing denier, considering that the facts are clearly on my side, which makes you more like the deniers than me. Very amusing.

Now, you can certainly argue that capitalizing all words in titles is a better system. That's a matter of opinion, and I won't criticize your opinion. There are good arguments either way. However, that's not the accepted standard, so be careful about using terms like "TRUE titlecase" because true titlecase is not what you think it is.

If you can convince Kovid to add a button or other option to capitalize titles the way you want, great! Just understand that it's not about correcting a mistake or doing things the right way. It's about adding a new feature for non-standard usage.

[Timboli]

That's the thing about Language and Rules.

Many think they are hard and fast and surely set in stone, which is totally incorrect.

I believe in the scientific approach myself, where Logic is paramount.

And I don't care who made up some rule many years gone, if it is dumb it is dumb, and should be changed, and is changed by those that have the wit to see.

And the thing about this big wide world, is that not all languages and cultures or even societies agree on the same things.

And sometimes outdated things are held up by arrogance or snobbery and inflexibility.

Language is a living growing changing beast, and tying it to a bunch of rules that don't make logical sense, especially in the modern context, is foolish.

Like the word 'Marriage'. No-one owns it and no-one can set its definition in concrete. Sure they can try, but ultimately these things evolve or change ... like the word Gay and its meaning.

So those who prefer 'lighted' to 'lit' and 'doughnut' to 'donut' etc, enjoy them while you can.

Too many rules a good life does not make.

So in light of all that, "who's rules" is very pertinent. And "by what right" is also pertinent. Very valid questions they are.

[Timboli]

@Kovid - it seems that all is working fine now in relation to covers, so perhaps something has changed since v1.41. Or the ebook sources I use now provide a better ebook. For the last week, every day, all have converted properly in regard to cover, without having to select anything. Thanks for your time.

[Timboli]

While waiting for improvements, I decided to whip up something myself, which works a treat. Works by right-click on an OPF metadata file or drag & drop. When you click SAVE, it can also update the entry in calibre.

Extract buttons do a lot of tricky things to suit several Title scenarios.