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Old 07-23-2017, 02:44 PM   #16
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A couple of times recently I have deleted from and redownloaded a book on my Voyage that has been on there since before left justified page alignment came in, in order to activate that feature, and while it succeeded in doing that, it removed page numbers from those books (and removed the option to use a publisher font in one of them). I did wonder whether there was any kind of drift away from page numbers. I would hope not.

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You could download the Kindle books via USB transfer, load them into Calibre and if Calibre is properly configured, you'll get page numbers when you load them onto your Kindle.
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The only way to always get page numbers is to go ePub via RMDSK (ADE). Kindles need an extra file to give page numbers. ePub eBooks don't as that's done by RMDSK.
As I posted earlier, Jon, you'll always get page numbers if you send your book to the Kindle with Calibre, because Calibre (or rather the Kindle device driver in Calibre) generates the required file. You need to send it via USB, of course, not email.
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I did wonder whether there was any kind of drift away from page numbers. I would hope not.
I don't think that there is a drift away from page numbers on Amazon, but they were never available for most books. For those that have them it is indicated on the product page for the book: "Contains real page numbers...".

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A couple of times recently I have deleted from and redownloaded a book on my Voyage that has been on there since before left justified page alignment came in, in order to activate that feature, and while it succeeded in doing that, it removed page numbers from those books (and removed the option to use a publisher font in one of them).
If those books were purchased from Amazon and sent directly to the Kindle via WiFi or 3G they should not have lost page numbers, assuming that they actually had them in the first place. They may have been updated to KFX format, which would enable the option for ragged right alignment, but should still contain pages numbers in that format.

If you used calibre to load the books originally on your device or to re-load them then they should have had page numbers, as long as calibre was configured to send them.

If you manually copy a book file to your Kindle via USB it will not have page numbers.

However in the last two cases (manual copy or load via calibre) the Kindle would not have enabled the ragged right option, since that requires KFX format.

If you provide more information about how you loaded those books on your Voyage originally and how you updated them then perhaps this can be diagnosed further. For books purchased and downloaded directly from Amazon the ASIN of a book that had this problem would be helpful.

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I don't think that there is a drift away from page numbers on Amazon, but they were never available for most books. For those that have them it is indicated on the product page for the book: "Contains real page numbers...".



If those books were purchased from Amazon and sent directly to the Kindle via WiFi or 3G they should not have lost page numbers, assuming that they actually had them in the first place. They may have been updated to KFX format, which would enable the option for ragged right alignment, but should still contain pages numbers in that format.

If you used calibre to load the books originally on your device or to re-load them then they should have had page numbers, as long as calibre was configured to send them.

If you manually copy a book file to your Kindle via USB it will not have page numbers.

However in the last two cases (manual copy or load via calibre) the Kindle would not have enabled the ragged right option, since that requires KFX format.

If you provide more information about how you loaded those books on your Voyage originally and how you updated them then perhaps this can be diagnosed further. For books purchased and downloaded directly from Amazon the ASIN of a book that had this problem would be helpful.
Thanks. They were bought from Amazon and sent to my Kindle from the webpage as usual. They were not side loaded and I don't use Calibre. And they definitely had page numbers before I deleted them from my Voyage and didn't have them when I redownloaded them immediately.

I'm not terribly bothered about this, it's just a mid disappointment and curiosity.

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As I posted earlier, Jon, you'll always get page numbers if you send your book to the Kindle with Calibre, because Calibre (or rather the Kindle device driver in Calibre) generates the required file. You need to send it via USB, of course, not email.
But only if you've properly configured Calibre. It's an option. I don't recall the default.
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But only if you've properly configured Calibre. It's an option. I don't recall the default.
I'm pretty sure it's the default. I've certainly never explicitly turned it on - it just does it.
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