What is your preferred way of referring to non-ebooks? (when needing to distinguish) - Page 2

MikeB1972 · 07-04-2017, 04:27 AM

Just Book, who gives a damn about the format, this is the only place I would even bother to differentiate, and even then only when comparing electronic to paper.

Sweetpea · 07-04-2017, 07:50 AM

Paper book or physical book when in real life, or p(aper)book if used on the internet. When I say "Book", I mean the electronic form.

Ricky D'Angelo · 07-04-2017, 07:52 AM

Libro

pdurrant · 07-04-2017, 07:54 AM

Book, unless I'm specially referring to it as distinct from an ebook, in which case paper book.

Just like I don't commonly refer to a book as being a hardback book or a paperback book, unless the physical format is relevant.

gmw · 07-04-2017, 08:38 AM

I almost made the mistake of not reading the OP. Like others I use just book when the distinction is not important, but when distinguishing between paper versus electronic I sometimes use "pbook", sometimes "paper book" (which I was able to find options for) but I have also been known to say that I have a book in "paperback" or "hardback" when merely identifying the fact that I am talking about a paper rather than electronic edition.

Catlady · 07-04-2017, 09:50 AM

I don't know if I ever consciously heard the term "pbook" before seeing this thread.

I just say "book" unless I'm talking specifically about an e-book or audio book. If I'm posting something here and need to distinguish, I think I probably say "physical book" or "printed book."

sun surfer · 07-04-2017, 10:32 AM

I realise the title wasn't clear enough so I've asked for an addition to it to make the question clearer.

I only added plain 'book' for those (ahem, stubborn

) people who want to insist on just saying book even when needing to distinguish from an ebook. For example, if such a person only reads ebooks then they might say, 'I don't read books anymore'. I hope that makes it clear how silly it would be to use simply 'book' to distinguish from 'ebook'.

This was mentioned in the OP, but now hopefully the title will make this clearer too.

pdurrant · 07-04-2017, 10:59 AM

I suspect that if you wanted to draw any conclusion from your poll, you'll need to re-do in a new thread. Although I have changed the thread title for you.

sun surfer · 07-04-2017, 11:28 AM

Thanks pdurrant. It's tempting but except for 'book' the options would probably still have the same or almost the same votes since it's multiple choice, and even with the question clearer a good amount of people still may want to vote for 'book' anyway (the title was changed when there were 55 total votes with 'book' at 15 votes, so any above that we'll know those people knew the clearer question and still chose that option). I also wonder if a new poll might be a bit skewed because some who already voted on this poll might not bother to re-vote on a new one. So because of all that I might be inclined to let this one stand, but if the consensus is we should start over again then I will. If anyone has an opinion on whether I should let this poll stand or redo it, speak now!

JSWolf · 07-04-2017, 01:28 PM

The first four entries are incorrect. They should be spelled pBook and pBook stands for all of those definitions meaning there should only be ONE entry for pBook.

Can this poll be fixed or does it need scrapping and a new poll in place?

JSWolf · 07-04-2017, 01:33 PM

I use pBook when I mean specifically not an eBook. The problem here is I'd have to vote multiple times for the same thing.

jhowell · 07-04-2017, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sun surfer

If anyone has an opinion on whether I should let this poll stand or redo it, speak now!

I think that there is no point in re-doing the poll, but for future reference it is always a good idea to have a "none of the above" choice just in case you forget a popular option. Without that some people will just pick the closest match or not vote at all.

sun surfer · 07-05-2017, 10:53 AM

All right, it's probably best just to let this poll stand as is. It has given some interesting results so far. I didn't expect the spread to be quite so wide with 10 out of 12 options getting two or more votes, and no option has more than 50% so we really do use a variety of terms when distinguishing non-ebooks. I wonder if in the future we'll coalesce firmly around one term like we have with 'ebook' (we almost all use the same word regardless of capitalisation, space or dash).

The top five at the moment seem to be-
1) 'Paper Book'
2) 'Pbook' (regardless of what the 'p' stands for)
3) 'Book' (though some might have voted for this in error)
4) 'Pbook' (specifically short for 'paper book')
5) 'Dead Tree Book'

Even a very diverse top five. Going in I definitely was not expecting 'paper book' to be the leader, and by a good bit too.

JSWolf · 07-05-2017, 11:06 AM

You can't have pBook ranked more than once as it means all of the definitions you've posted. It should be one entry.

harriska2 · 07-05-2017, 01:15 PM

There's such a thing as non e-books?

View Poll Results: What is your preferred way of referring to non-ebooks?
'Pbook' (short for print book or printed book)	10	8.33%
'Pbook' (short for paper book)	13	10.83%
'Pbook' (short for physical book)	7	5.83%
'Pbook' (never thought about what it's short for)	4	3.33%
'Print Book' or 'Printed Book'	10	8.33%
'Paper Book'	48	40.00%
'Physical Book'	14	11.67%
'DTB' (short for dead tree book)	9	7.50%
'Dead Tree Book'	14	11.67%
'Real Book'	4	3.33%
'Spine Book' or 'Spined Book'	0	0%
'Book'	35	29.17%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 120. You may not vote on this poll

07-04-2017, 11:28 AM	#24
sun surfer languorous autodidact ✦ Posts: 4,235 Karma: 44667380 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: smiling with the rising sun Device: onyx boox poke 2 colour, kindle voyage	Thanks pdurrant. It's tempting but except for 'book' the options would probably still have the same or almost the same votes since it's multiple choice, and even with the question clearer a good amount of people still may want to vote for 'book' anyway (the title was changed when there were 55 total votes with 'book' at 15 votes, so any above that we'll know those people knew the clearer question and still chose that option). I also wonder if a new poll might be a bit skewed because some who already voted on this poll might not bother to re-vote on a new one. So because of all that I might be inclined to let this one stand, but if the consensus is we should start over again then I will. If anyone has an opinion on whether I should let this poll stand or redo it, speak now! Last edited by sun surfer; 07-04-2017 at 04:13 PM.

07-04-2017, 01:28 PM	#25
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,756 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The first four entries are incorrect. They should be spelled pBook and pBook stands for all of those definitions meaning there should only be ONE entry for pBook. Can this poll be fixed or does it need scrapping and a new poll in place? Last edited by JSWolf; 07-04-2017 at 01:30 PM.

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07-04-2017, 04:27 AM	#16
MikeB1972 Gnu Posts: 1,222 Karma: 15625359 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Device: BeBook,JetBook Lite,PRS-300-350-505-650,+ran out of space to type	Just Book, who gives a damn about the format, this is the only place I would even bother to differentiate, and even then only when comparing electronic to paper.

07-04-2017, 07:50 AM	#17
Sweetpea Grand Sorcerer Posts: 9,707 Karma: 32763414 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Krewerd Device: Pocketbook Inkpad 4 Color; Samsung Galaxy Tab S6	Paper book or physical book when in real life, or p(aper)book if used on the internet. When I say "Book", I mean the electronic form.

07-04-2017, 07:52 AM	#18
Ricky D'Angelo Fanatic Posts: 537 Karma: 2495066 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Latin America Device: Sony PRS-T1, PRS-T-2, PRS 350, PRS 950; Kobo Mini; Kindle PW3, Fire 10	Libro

07-04-2017, 07:54 AM	#19
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 73,948 Karma: 315160596 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	Book, unless I'm specially referring to it as distinct from an ebook, in which case paper book. Just like I don't commonly refer to a book as being a hardback book or a paperback book, unless the physical format is relevant.

07-04-2017, 08:38 AM	#20
gmw cacoethes scribendi Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650	I almost made the mistake of not reading the OP. Like others I use just book when the distinction is not important, but when distinguishing between paper versus electronic I sometimes use "pbook", sometimes "paper book" (which I was able to find options for) but I have also been known to say that I have a book in "paperback" or "hardback" when merely identifying the fact that I am talking about a paper rather than electronic edition.

07-04-2017, 09:50 AM	#21
Catlady Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,418 Karma: 52613881 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Fire, Kindle Paperwhite, AGPTek Bluetooth Clip	I don't know if I ever consciously heard the term "pbook" before seeing this thread. I just say "book" unless I'm talking specifically about an e-book or audio book. If I'm posting something here and need to distinguish, I think I probably say "physical book" or "printed book."

07-04-2017, 10:32 AM	#22
sun surfer languorous autodidact ✦ Posts: 4,235 Karma: 44667380 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: smiling with the rising sun Device: onyx boox poke 2 colour, kindle voyage	I realise the title wasn't clear enough so I've asked for an addition to it to make the question clearer. I only added plain 'book' for those (ahem, stubborn ) people who want to insist on just saying book even when needing to distinguish from an ebook. For example, if such a person only reads ebooks then they might say, 'I don't read books anymore'. I hope that makes it clear how silly it would be to use simply 'book' to distinguish from 'ebook'. This was mentioned in the OP, but now hopefully the title will make this clearer too.

07-04-2017, 10:59 AM	#23
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 73,948 Karma: 315160596 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	I suspect that if you wanted to draw any conclusion from your poll, you'll need to re-do in a new thread. Although I have changed the thread title for you.

07-04-2017, 01:33 PM	#26
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,756 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I use pBook when I mean specifically not an eBook. The problem here is I'd have to vote multiple times for the same thing.

07-05-2017, 10:53 AM	#28
sun surfer languorous autodidact ✦ Posts: 4,235 Karma: 44667380 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: smiling with the rising sun Device: onyx boox poke 2 colour, kindle voyage	All right, it's probably best just to let this poll stand as is. It has given some interesting results so far. I didn't expect the spread to be quite so wide with 10 out of 12 options getting two or more votes, and no option has more than 50% so we really do use a variety of terms when distinguishing non-ebooks. I wonder if in the future we'll coalesce firmly around one term like we have with 'ebook' (we almost all use the same word regardless of capitalisation, space or dash). The top five at the moment seem to be- 1) 'Paper Book' 2) 'Pbook' (regardless of what the 'p' stands for) 3) 'Book' (though some might have voted for this in error) 4) 'Pbook' (specifically short for 'paper book') 5) 'Dead Tree Book' Even a very diverse top five. Going in I definitely was not expecting 'paper book' to be the leader, and by a good bit too.

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07-05-2017, 11:06 AM	#29
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,756 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	You can't have pBook ranked more than once as it means all of the definitions you've posted. It should be one entry.

07-05-2017, 01:15 PM	#30
harriska2 Addict Posts: 272 Karma: 8000000 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Corvallis, OR Device: Kindle PW2, iPad Pro	There's such a thing as non e-books?