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Old 11-04-2016, 04:47 PM   #16
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Maybe it depends on your definition of "premium", but I'd say the 6" Kobo GloHD was a better buy than either the original Aura or the Aura 2.
By 'premium', I mean that it had some sort of outstanding design and a relatively hight price tag.

The reviews for the original Aura tended to say it was a fine, but expensive reader (though cheaper than the Aura HD). It was also flashy with its flat bezel.

And while I agree that the Glo HD is better than the Aura 2, Kobo obviously couldn't justify keeping the device on the market at that price, or they have something grand up their sleeve.

It's a shame they couldn't keep the same nice Carta screen in the Aura 2. At least then it could compete with the Paperwhite 3. I really don't know who they are marketing the Aura 2 to, except for Kobo owners whose current device breaks.
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Old 11-04-2016, 05:02 PM   #17
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The only 6" premium e-reader Kobo's sold is the original Aura and it is telling that the Aura 2 is a stripped down version of it.
Probably the marketers named it the Aura 2 because they want us to believe it's a descendent but I think it's not a stripped down Aura, but a stripped down Glo HD. Pretty much all their devices are Auras now so the name doesn't mean anything.

I have all 3 models of the Paperwhite and I use the PW2 and PW3 interchangeably and I really can't tell the difference. I realize others can but I can't and I doubt most people can. The Aura 2 and the Glo HD have the same screen density relationship as my Paperwhites so I really think most people who buy the Aura 2 are going to be happy with it. Personally I like my old Aura.

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Probably the marketers named it the Aura 2 because they want us to believe it's a descendent but I think it's not a stripped down Aura, but a stripped down Glo HD. Pretty much all their devices are Auras now so the name doesn't mean anything.

I have all 3 models of the Paperwhite and I use the PW2 and PW3 interchangeably and I really can't tell the difference. I realize others can but I can't and I doubt most people can. The Aura 2 and the Glo HD have the same screen density relationship as my Paperwhites so I really think most people who buy the Aura 2 are going to be happy with it. Personally I like my old Aura.

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I got a Glo back when it was the current model; it was my first front-lit device, but I was never happy with it. I preferred my Sony X50s, where the text displayed more sharply even though the specs were worse. It wasn't until I got the H2O that I liked a Kobo. (Really didn't like the Mini.)

Time marches on and much as I loved my Sonys, I was ready for a brighter and lighter, smaller reader for my purse. I was waiting on the new releases, but when I saw the Aura 2 I read the writing on the wall and jumped on a Glo HD.

My point? The 212 ppi resolution of the Glo, the Aura 2 and the PW 2 isn't good enough when there's better. The 265 ppi of the H2O was fine; I don't get added utility that I'm aware of from 300 ppi. But 212 is unacceptable to me; obviously MMV as yours obviously does.

All of that said, I agree with your analysis. Kobo is carving out its market where Amazon doesn't go, that of larger screens. The Aura 2 is just so they have an entry in the lit, 6" market, but they've cheapened it so it's not a loss. Alrighty; I've got my Glo HD, so I'm good. And there's no point in buying ahead, so I'll just have to see what the market brings down the line.
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The Aura 2 and the Glo HD have the same screen density relationship as my Paperwhites so I really think most people who buy the Aura 2 are going to be happy with it. Personally I like my old Aura.
The Aura 2 has 212 ppi and the Glo HD had 300 ppi. The Paperwhite 3 has 300 ppi.

I will say that I'm happy with my Aura and if it were to be squashed by a steamroller, I'd likely order an Aura 2 as a replacement.

When I checked out a Voyage at Best Buy, the screen wasn't monumentally better to my eyes than my Nook ST. I mean really, it's black-ish text on a white-ish background. It doesn't take too much to look presentable. Or my standards aren't high. Take your pick.

But having said all that, if you were a newbie wanting to buy your first e-reader and you were comparing the Aura 2 to the Paperwhite 3, odds are the Paperwhite 3 would win.
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Old 11-05-2016, 07:26 PM   #21
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My point? The 212 ppi resolution of the Glo, the Aura 2 and the PW 2 isn't good enough when there's better.
This is a very personal sort of thing. If you can see the difference in the higher resolution then it makes sense for you to be guided by that. I know some people can see it. I can't and I think most people can't.

I'm just as happy reading my Paperwhite 2 as my Paperwhite 3 even though one is 212 ppi and the other is 300 ppi. I literally can't tell the difference. They're in different color cases but if they weren't I doubt I'd usually know which one I'm using.

That's not quite the same as comparing them to my original Kobo Aura. It has a much less evenly lit screen. I can definitely tell the difference even though the difference doesn't bother me. But it's there and fairly obvious.

The same is true with my Paperwhite 1. It's not as evenly lit as the later models. I can instantly tell which one I'm using. But it fine for reading and I don't care. Between the PW 2 and PW 3 I can't see any difference even side by side.

I think increasing the density is more for marketing purposes than anything else. We give up a little battery life. A few people's experience is improved. Probably Manga readers like it more. But most of us just can't see a difference. People who are guided by specs will buy the 300 ppi. People who are guided by appearance will buy either one.

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The dimwits (and that's actually being reaaaallllyyyy polite compared to what I'd like to call them) that did that particular review wouldn't know the difference between an e-reader and a hardcover book if they weren't labelled as such. Their reputation for actually getting much right is abysmally low (usually they have a quite a number of really basic things wrong in every review) . And that applies to any brand or any device they happen to be reviewing. If it comes out of Goodereader take it with several truckloads of salt.

To give you a small idea of the quality of their work, the details in this article by them: http://goodereader.com/blog/electron...n-the-aura-one was directly cut and pasted from here on Mobileread with no acknowledgement or attribution (and it wasn't Kobo that said any of it as they claimed). And that's not the 1st time that's happened.
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I've watched the comparison and re-read the whole thread and I'm still not understanding what you mean.
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The one thing we do know is that Amazon is the leader in the field and the others are pretty far behind, so my guess is that Kobo was cutting costs with their new Aura 2nd Edition to help them compete.

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This needs a fair bit of qualification: Amazon is the market leader in the USA and some other countries. That doesn't make them the tech leader or the operating system leader or anything else.
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Yes, but that discussion carried across multiple devices of varying quality.

This started as a recommendation for a replacement for the Kobo Glo. Recommendations as a replacement were the Aura H20 or the Glo HD. Which is also what the video you linked to recommended.

Then discussion switched to the Glo HD no longer being produced and the reasons behind it.

Kobo has not come out with a definitive statement. They haven't even said that it has been discontinued. But general consensus is that the profit margin on the Glo HD just wasn't enough to justify its continued production. It has been replaced by the lower spec'd Aura 2.

At the same price point, Amazon seems to have no trouble with the Paperwhite 3 which is comparable to the Glo HD (as the video showed) and has a nicer screen than the Aura 2.

Amazon can do this because they are to e-readers what Apple is to phones. To the general public, they are seen as the best, regardless of professional reviews of comparable devices.

I would much rather have a Kobo than a Kindle. But then I hang naround nerdy boards like this one. I use Calibre. I buy my books from Amazon, strip the DRM and convert them.

If my mom who lives out of state decided to try an e-reader, I wouldn't recommend this. I would recommend a Kindle Paperwhite 3.
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Just a question as I have not researched it myself. Do you know of any market where Amazon officially sells the Kindle and it is not the #1 e-reader?

As far as I know, anywhere they chose to set up shop, they dominate. But I have not heavily researched that in a while.

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That doesn't make them the tech leader or the operating system leader or anything else.
Maybe. But like the great iOS/Android debate, if the above is true, does the rest really matter?

The Kindle will continue to be the benchmark against which comparable devices are judged.

You don't have to accept my statement. But as evidence, I will point to Kobo's otherwise inexplicable decision to pull the Glo HD and replace it with the Aura 2.
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Kobo has not come out with a definitive statement. They haven't even said that it has been discontinued. But general consensus is that the profit margin on the Glo HD just wasn't enough to justify its continued production. It has been replaced by the lower spec'd Aura 2.

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I believe Kobo has said multiplte times, and it has been reported, that the Glo HD has been discontinued.

Just because a couple of people on MR say something doesn't make it "general consensus".
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Just a question as I have not researched it myself. Do you know of any market where Amazon officially sells the Kindle and it is not the #1 e-reader?

As far as I know, anywhere they chose to set up shop, they dominate. But I have not heavily researched that in a while.

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I believe Kobo has said multiplte times, and it has been reported, that the Glo HD has been discontinued.

Just because a couple of people on MR say something doesn't make it "general consensus".
Can you point me to Kobo's announcement?

I searched and found nothing, particularly on Kobo's on new releases dating back through April: http://news.kobo.com/releases

It's still listed on Kobo's site, though it is out of stock.
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