eink case for android - Page 2

trocchietto · 08-17-2016, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Luffy

Okay. Good for you.

Technology changes, so the discussion over eink vs lcd!
Personally I do not find comfortable topics of 20 pages. They are often inefficient

The issue is there is all this speaking over eink lcd aka interest! But no major house propose an eink decent cover. With an eink cover discussion will terminate, everybody would be free to chose

Sweetpea · 08-17-2016, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by trocchietto

Technology changes, so the discussion over eink vs lcd!

True. LCD is getting outdated and AMOLED is getting used more often. And that is a lot better in contrast than LCD. It's also more energy efficient. So the need for e-ink is actually decreasing, not increasing. Once the biggest hurdle has been taken (in my eyes, that's visibility in a very bright environment without emptying your battery in a few hours), the need for e-ink will decrease even more.

But I'd buy an e-ink cover, if only because the one thing any other screen cannot do: the ability to show something without taking battery power at all.

trocchietto · 08-17-2016, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

But I'd buy an e-ink cover, if only because the one thing any other screen cannot do: the ability to show something without taking battery power at all.

Well said. battery is not a trivial advantage.
But also if one reads on a sunny place, come on, there is no comparison with a retrolight carta eink! is like reading paper.
I just tried today for few hours the last super amoled of samsung s7.
great screen, i am going definetly to buy the next note 7. Reading under the sun is for the first time possible. But still.. no way to compare with eink,
is just so restful and relaxing, this is the point, we do not have to see the empiric advantages, but the healthy advantages in the long run for our eyes, and levels of stress, reading from eink is just fantastic because scientifically is not backlighted... it is clear stimulus...response. whatever people think,shotting the light in the eyes not the way to go all day. this should not be confutable imo

cfrizz · 08-17-2016, 07:54 PM

Rock on with eink if it floats your boat, but I very rarely read outside, so being able to do so isn't much of a concern for me, and when I do I just use my T1 for doing so. But it has been over a year since I have done so.

Here is a good common sense article about this debate.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...e-strain/?_r=0

trocchietto · 08-19-2016, 08:54 AM

medical researches do not convince me too much. I have experience of medical researches changed after 20 years with opposite conclusions. Just to mention, coffee is good or bad, sugar is good or bad, fat is good or bad, telephone radiations are dangerous for the brain or not( at this purpose I could bring some studies and documentaries really interesting), tobacco in the 50es, climate change now etc.

http://goo.gl/CjYEMa

cfrizz · 08-20-2016, 12:52 PM

You should have left the statement of you being an advocate for eink because YOU like it better in, rather than deleting it.

That was an accurate statement, not that tablets/phones are damaging to every ones eyes who uses them. Because that can be easily proven not to be true.

Enjoy your eink readers, just be kind enough to let the rest of us enjoy our phones and tablets without you demonizing them as dangerous to our health.

trocchietto · 08-21-2016, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cfrizz

You should have left the statement of you being an advocate for eink because YOU like it better in, rather than deleting it.

That was an accurate statement, not that tablets/phones are damaging to every ones eyes who uses them. Because that can be easily proven not to be true.

Enjoy your eink readers, just be kind enough to let the rest of us enjoy our phones and tablets without you demonizing them as dangerous to our health.

fair enough, thank you for the polite way to debate, really appreciate

spindlegirl · 09-08-2016, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 4691mls

Not this again! I wish I had a nickel for every time the e-ink vs LCD topic has come up in the years since I've been reading this forum. Somebody always says LCD causes eyestrain, and eventually someone else comes along and says you just need to adjust brightness/contrast etc.... Too bad there's not a sticky thread for this topic (along with stickies for some other regularly recurring topics such as "the evils of DRM", "the evils of copyright", "paper books vs ebooks", and "ebooks should be cheaper than paper books").

Why can't we all just agree that people's eyes are not all the same, some people are happy reading on an LCD tablet, and others prefer e-ink? OK rant over now......

I agree here. If I can read these topics just fine on my phone or tablet, (which I'm doing right now to familiarize myself with Tapatalk) then I most certainly have no problem reading anything else on it.

I love my Kindle, and in the right circumstances is what I'd read from instead of my tablet or phone. But I can spend equal amounts of time with both devices.

Sent from my XT1563 using Tapatalk

barryem · 09-09-2016, 12:27 PM

I can read comfortably on my phone (a Nexus 5) for 15 or 20 minutes. Then I have to take a break or I won't be able to do a lot of reading for a few hours. It doesn't have to be a long break but if I don't wait several minutes between sessions I have problems.

This isn't at all the same as reading web pages on my computer. I'm a retired programmer and I spent decades staring into a computer screen all day long and it rarely bothered me. But I could never read a book on a computer screen more than a little at a time. The difference is that when programming or web browsing I'm not just staring into the screen. I'm always looking away, taking short breaks of 5 seconds or 30 seconds or even a few minutes, as I work. When I'm reading I'm gazing steadily into the screen.

I do read a lot on my phone. It's fine if I keep the sessions short. It's great for when I'm out and about with a few minutes here and there to enjoy my book. But I mostly read on e-ink.

I do have some tablets and I've tried reading on them. I've tried reading modes and reverse text and all of that helps but my sessions still have to be fairly short.

As for the question of e-ink cases for our phones, I'd love that and, even being retired and under the poverty level, I'd save and buy one if it was available. But I doubt it'll happen for most of us. There are a lot of problems. Low demand was already mentioned. Most people won't be interested so that would increase the price and make a lot more people less interested.

Another, probably killer problem is that there are so many phones and the few of us who would buy one probably have a lot of different phones and that means a lot of different models and designs for the cases. That's unlikely to happen.

A better solution would be a small, unattached e-ink screen that can work with any Android or IOS phone using an app. But still, that would be expensive and the market would probably be small.

My guess is that I'll have to just keep on reading bits here and there on my phone and do my longer reading sessions on my Kindle.

By the way, I was over at the community area this morning at the retirement home where I live, reading a bit now and then with my phone. Probably no session was more than 5 minutes but my guess is I read 30 or 40 pages of my current book. My eyes feel fine and I got a fair amount of reading in. This isn't a terrible situation.

Barry

Lemurion · 09-11-2016, 04:52 PM

I'm 52 years old, with crappy vision and I read a lot on my phone, largely because I always have it with me. It's a Galaxy Note 4 with a 5.7 super AMOLED screen at some ridiculously high resolution. I can read on it for hours, and have done so more than once.

When it comes to reading fiction though, my preference is my Kindle Paperwhite 3. It's just easier for long reads: partly for the display, partly for the battery life, and partly for the fact it doesn't do anything else that might distract me.

As for graphic novels, comics, or PDFs, I have a 12-inch tablet with an IPS LCD that works just fine. The big advantage there is the screen size. It's almost as big as an RPG rulebook, and the same size as an American comic book.

As long as I have one of them with me, and the battery has a charge, I'm good. They each have advantages and disadvantages but any one will work in a pinch.

Jeremy_Loweryp · 09-22-2016, 05:30 PM

hmm Oaxis says it expects to start mass production in September, delivering the first devices in October 2014. The crowdfunded project has already surpassed its $100,000 goal, with 27 days to go. The company will consider building a second version of the device with a bigger screen, as long as enough people are on board.

Sweetpea · 09-26-2016, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy_Loweryp

hmm Oaxis says it expects to start mass production in September, delivering the first devices in October 2014. The crowdfunded project has already surpassed its $100,000 goal, with 27 days to go. The company will consider building a second version of the device with a bigger screen, as long as enough people are on board.

We are already living in 2016....

I just looked at the Oaxis site, problem with their covers is that they're specificially made for a model. They have a case for a Huawei P8 and one for the iphone 6/6s. There are a lot more models out there in the world...

kacir · 09-26-2016, 01:28 PM

I have looked at the inkcase and I wasn't sure whether 4.3 inch is enough for reading.

A few months ago I have purchased Onyx InkPhone - 4.3 inch front-lit e-ink Android phone.
It has severe hardware and software shortcomings, yet, it is my favorite reader when I am not at home. And sometimes even when reading at home.
I can just slip it into a pocket without a case and I am not afraid that it would get damaged.

The size of the 4.3" screen is 94x56mm
The size of 6" 300dpi screen on my other reader is 92x123mm - 2.14 times bigger area for text
In landscape the width of the screen is a little bit more than the width of the 6" screen in portrait mode. With half the area for the text I have to turn the page twice as often.

Oh ... by the way ...
There is YotaPhone 2 with LCD screen AND an e-ink screen on the back for sale for $139.90
http://the-digital-reader.com/2016/0...-gearbest-140/

kacir · 09-26-2016, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

I just looked at the Oaxis site, problem with their covers is that they're specificially made for a model. They have a case for a Huawei P8 and one for the iphone 6/6s.

They do have an universal case - fitcase
They sell the display unit separately here:
https://shop.oaxis.com/products/inkc...ant=1475863169
It is just sold-out at the moment

Sweetpea · 09-27-2016, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kacir

They do have an universal case - fitcase
They sell the display unit separately here:
https://shop.oaxis.com/products/inkc...ant=1475863169
It is just sold-out at the moment

3.5" is a bit small if you have a 5.5" phone and I don't have an Android phone

08-19-2016, 08:54 AM	#20
trocchietto Addict Posts: 399 Karma: 2038458 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Amsterdam, but I am neapolitan Device: sony 650 ,T2, samsung 7.7, ipad2, ipad mini2, yotaphone2, galax tab s2	medical researches do not convince me too much. I have experience of medical researches changed after 20 years with opposite conclusions. Just to mention, coffee is good or bad, sugar is good or bad, fat is good or bad, telephone radiations are dangerous for the brain or not( at this purpose I could bring some studies and documentaries really interesting), tobacco in the 50es, climate change now etc. http://goo.gl/CjYEMa Last edited by trocchietto; 08-19-2016 at 04:54 PM.

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cfrizz Wizard Posts: 1,570 Karma: 36389706 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Quincy, MA Device: Samsung 54A, Kobo Libra H2O, Samsung S6 Lite	You should have left the statement of you being an advocate for eink because YOU like it better in, rather than deleting it. That was an accurate statement, not that tablets/phones are damaging to every ones eyes who uses them. Because that can be easily proven not to be true. Enjoy your eink readers, just be kind enough to let the rest of us enjoy our phones and tablets without you demonizing them as dangerous to our health.

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Jeremy_Loweryp Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 2059998 Join Date: Sep 2016 Device: lg	hmm Oaxis says it expects to start mass production in September, delivering the first devices in October 2014. The crowdfunded project has already surpassed its $100,000 goal, with 27 days to go. The company will consider building a second version of the device with a bigger screen, as long as enough people are on board.

09-26-2016, 01:28 PM	#28
kacir Wizard Posts: 3,463 Karma: 10684861 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PocketBook 360, before it was Sony Reader, cassiopeia A-20	I have looked at the inkcase and I wasn't sure whether 4.3 inch is enough for reading. A few months ago I have purchased Onyx InkPhone - 4.3 inch front-lit e-ink Android phone. It has severe hardware and software shortcomings, yet, it is my favorite reader when I am not at home. And sometimes even when reading at home. I can just slip it into a pocket without a case and I am not afraid that it would get damaged. The size of the 4.3" screen is 94x56mm The size of 6" 300dpi screen on my other reader is 92x123mm - 2.14 times bigger area for text In landscape the width of the screen is a little bit more than the width of the 6" screen in portrait mode. With half the area for the text I have to turn the page twice as often. Oh ... by the way ... There is YotaPhone 2 with LCD screen AND an e-ink screen on the back for sale for $139.90 http://the-digital-reader.com/2016/0...-gearbest-140/

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