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Old 04-03-2016, 06:39 PM   #16
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I am pretty sure they will just explain that Ubuntu is a Windows app.
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Old 04-03-2016, 06:58 PM   #17
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I am pretty sure they will just explain that Ubuntu is a Windows app.
Let me know when they do the same for OS X....
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Old 04-03-2016, 07:17 PM   #18
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Ever since the days of XP, Windows has had the capability of running different "subsystems" to implement different API sets. Eg, XP had a POSIX subsystem, although I can't recall ever seeing it used for anything practical.
Windows XP does not have the POSIX and OS/2 subsystems anymore (POSIX can be re-added by installing Windows Services for Unix). They were available from Windows NT 3.5x up to and including Windows 2000.
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Windows XP does not have the POSIX and OS/2 subsystems anymore (POSIX can be re-added by installing Windows Services for Unix). They were available from Windows NT 3.5x up to and including Windows 2000.
My apologies: when I said "Windows XP", I meant "Windows NT". A "senior moment".
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Let me know when they do the same for OS X....
That would be getting interestingly circular or toroidal or something. OSX was essentially based on the FreeBSD userland and C library running over the mach kernel and under a different graphical layer, although I expect they've diverged a little over the past few years. FreeBSD itself has been able to run native Linux binaries for many years (in some very specific cases, with better performance than on Linux!) [1]. As a non Mac user, I don't think OSX can, because that's kernel level voodoo, but I am willing to be corrected.

Given there is, or at least was, already FreeBSD code in Windows too, and given the license is more amenable to commercial use than the GPL, it wouldn't surprise me if that's what they started with to pull this off (<-- that's me wildly speculating, however, I haven't looked at any of this in practice yet).

As to why they didn't go straight to Debian, probably the license wars that would occur. I've knocked heads with the DFSG and it makes Catch 22 look eminently sensible.

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO...-advanced.html - it's a nifty trick.
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MS should have based their Linux system directly on Debian.
I don't think Microsoft would understand how to deal with a not for profit (non-corporate) entity. They probably figured it was a choice between Red Hat or Ubuntu.

That said, I like Linux Mint, which is based on Ubuntu.
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I don't think Microsoft would understand how to deal with a not for profit (non-corporate) entity. They probably figured it was a choice between Red Hat or Ubuntu.

That said, I like Linux Mint, which is based on Ubuntu.
That is what I run.
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