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Old 03-18-2016, 02:55 PM   #16
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So basically if one updates, Amazon can continue to send stuff wirelessly. If one doesn't update, side load only. If I am understanding what accessing kindle services means.

Oh KNC,
I think that was the first email some people received. That was also on the website.
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So basically if one updates, Amazon can continue to send stuff wirelessly. If one doesn't update, side load only. If I am understanding what accessing kindle services means.

Oh KNC,
I think that was the first email some people received. That was also on the website.
I may have clicked the wrong one in my "Amazon Junk Mailbox".
It wasn't until an hour or so after I posted it that I noticed the wrong date.
Rather than fight with my e-mail client again, I just changed the date on the old message.
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I may have clicked the wrong one in my "Amazon Junk Mailbox".
It wasn't until an hour or so after I posted it that I noticed the wrong date.
Rather than fight with my e-mail client again, I just changed the date on the old message.
No worries.
You are still Super Fix all kindles guy.
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Next step: telegrams, then carrier pigeons. (Don't be surprised if Amazon mails you a fax machine just so they can send you a fax.)
Drones... drones filling the sky everywhere. After that they'll just nuke whoever doesn't update
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Drones... drones filling the sky everywhere. After that they'll just nuke whoever doesn't update
They do have choices -
For the 3G models, they have the GPS coordinates close enough to use a conventional warhead.

For the Wifi models, they would have to use a small, tactical nuke. Say something with only a 5 mile radius kill zone.

The upside of that is -
Just think of all the McD's with those free Wifi access points that can poison our kids minds while the food poisons their bodies that we might lose.

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I can see Amazon down the road automatically de-registering devices that do not connect within a certain length of time.
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:07 PM   #22
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Drones... drones filling the sky everywhere. After that they'll just nuke whoever doesn't update
LOL ! Like Mr. Eastwood said, "Go Ahead Make My Day " Mr. Bezos if you nuke your customers then you won't make any more money. If you don't make anymore money you won't be able to afford sending out any more post cards.
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Old 03-18-2016, 09:20 PM   #23
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Might be worth tracking -
Today (3/18) he is down by 1.3%

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http://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/2016-03-18/ada

Maybe someone should suggest 2nd. class mail for the post cards.
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Old 03-19-2016, 05:36 PM   #24
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So this forced update only makes a change to only one folder (/opt/usr/java/lib/security/cacerts).
Could someone PM me the folder after the update?
I assume the updated certs are all that's necessary to keep the online connectivity.

I am asking because I'm actually still on 5.1 - and I don't want to update to 5.3 since that would break JBPatch.

(It's a Kindle Touch (4th gen) @ firmware 5.1.2)

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Old 03-19-2016, 05:43 PM   #25
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So this forced update only makes a change to only one folder (/opt/usr/java/lib/security/cacerts).
Could someone PM me the folder after the update?
I assume the updated certs are all that's necessary to keep the online connectivity.

I am asking because I'm actually still on 5.1 - and I don't want to update to 5.3 since that would break JBPatch.
Depends on your device model.
We have no information on "Device: None"
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@knc1: Right you are, completely forgot about that.
It's a Kindle Touch (4th gen) @ firmware 5.1.2
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@knc1: Right you are, completely forgot about that.
It's a Kindle Touch (4th gen) @ firmware 5.1.2
There is no 5.1 or 5.3 firmware version.

There are these paths:
(5.1.2, 5.1.1, 5.1.2) -> 5.3.2.1 -> 5.3.7.3

I looked at only one of the set of four updates in 5.3.2.1 and there are one heck of a lot of files being update in that 1/4.

I did not look into 5.3.7.3 but its filesize is over 2* that of the 5.3.2.1 update.

Translation:
It is not just a new cacerts file.

You can use KindleTool to open ('extract') each of the Amazon update packages, and to open ('extract') each of the update_*.bin files that each update package contains.

A bit of script reading will tell you which files are being changed.

AND
You can pick and chose what you want on your PC (if you run a sane OS) to your own image, just use a version of bspatch built for your PC/OS.
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I guess it's a Kindle Emergency
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The phrase: "your Kindle will stop working"
is like a newspaper headline.
Vastly abbreviated.

If not updated, your Kindle:
  • Will no longer be able to impulse (one click) purchase books from our store - instead you will have to use your computer and have time to think before sending us more money.
  • All of the market research data being gathered by our Kindles will no longer be able to be sent to Big Brother.
  • We will no longer be able to force feed you an OTA update without your permission.
    This has the added hazard that the device owner may get the idea that they own both the device, and the device's behavior.
  • You will not be able to store things on our cloud, where they are easy for us to study and data mine.
    In fact, you might have to use somebody else's cloud service (supported @MR since days of the KT).
  • Person's who saved $20 by buying an 'ad supported' (Special Offers) Kindle will be stuck forever looking at the same ads - your Kindle will no longer be able to download our newer ads.
    (Well, maybe that could be called: "Your Kindle will stop working.")
  • Geesh - I can't think of any more things that aren't a downside for Amazon and an upside for the user if they don't update.

So yes, an:
"Amazon Emergency"
for their present and future revenue streams.

The user will still be able to read e-books with the Kindle.
No chance of a "blank screen" as mention in one of the links posted above.

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It does make me wonder if after the 22nd someone buys a used Kindle circa 2012 and earlier, will they be able to register it or connect it to Amazon in any way?
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