Want to turn off backlight with JB – PW3 or Voyage? - Page 2

knc1 · 10-14-2015, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by conan50

Thanks for that info. I checked the battery and sure enough, even with the wifi off, it used more battery power than I expected overnight. If I press the on/off button too long it completely resets the device. I will have to see if the lowest light setting is tolerable, I may still buy another Kindle without the light. It is ridiculous that Amazon made merely turning the light off a herculean task.

The KT2 (Kindle Basic) does not have a front light.

conan50 · 10-14-2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by knc1

The KT2 (Kindle Basic) does not have a front light.

That's what I'm considering.

conan50 · 10-14-2015, 01:49 PM

OK, I refused to let this thing beat me. I realized I had some sticky velcro. What I did was stick a piece of one side of the velcro onto my Paperwhite where the magnet will shut it off, and then wrapped my magnet in the opposite sticky velcro. So now I have an easy to remove magnet via the velcro and I just remove the magnet at the end of the day to power down the Paperwhite, and put it back on to shut off the front light completely. It looks like it will work. I could not do anything but reset the Paperwhite with the power button with the magnet on, but with it off the Paperwhite appears to power down. With the magnet removed when I push in the button for two light flashes it gives me the option to shut off the screen and then I can. I just leave the velcro-magnet attached but slightly off to the side. Then I turn the Paperwhite back on and move the magnet back into place to shut off the light. Yay!

knc1 · 10-14-2015, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by conan50

OK, I refused to let this thing beat me. I realized I had some sticky velcro. What I did was stick a piece of one side of the velcro onto my Paperwhite where the magnet will shut it off, and then wrapped my magnet in the opposite sticky velcro. So now I have an easy to remove magnet via the velcro and I just remove the magnet at the end of the day to power down the Paperwhite, and put it back on to shut off the front light completely. It looks like it will work. I could not do anything but reset the Paperwhite with the power button with the magnet on, but with it off the Paperwhite appears to power down. With the magnet removed when I push in the button for two light flashes it gives me the option to shut off the screen and then I can. I just leave the velcro-magnet attached but slightly off to the side. Then I turn the Paperwhite back on and move the magnet back into place to shut off the light. Yay!

Your running a different (newer) firmware version than I am.

(I live in a no-WiFi zone - none of mine update unless I side load the update package.)

conan50 · 10-14-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by knc1

Your running a different (newer) firmware version than I am.

(I live in a no-WiFi zone - none of mine update unless I side load the update package.)

Then the newer update is helping me out, it has 5.6.1.1 firmware. I'm guessing that is the latest.

knc1 · 10-14-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by conan50

Then the newer update is helping me out, it has 5.6.1.1 firmware. I'm guessing that is the latest.

It is, but may get an update when the four other 5.6.x machines get theirs.
That pop up panel is new for the 5.6.x software.

I really should have asked first before offering advice.
I just didn't think of it.

conan50 · 10-14-2015, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by knc1

It is, but may get an update when the four other 5.6.x machines get theirs.
That pop up panel is new for the 5.6.x software.

I really should have asked first before offering advice.
I just didn't think of it.

No problem. If you had not mentioned it I would not have realized that my Papwerwhite was running down the battery and I needed a way to shut it down and keep the screen off feature

JHarry · 10-16-2015, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

What does turning off the screensaver have to do with turning off the frontlight?

In this way, you can read books like Screensaver and the magnet make KPW think that it's sleeping so there's no front-light.
aha, kindle's best choice for readers who want to turn off the light.

HarryT · 10-16-2015, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JHarry

In this way, you can read books like Screensaver and the magnet make KPW think that it's sleeping so there's no front-light.
aha, kindle's best choice for readers who want to turn off the light.

Surely if you don't want a light, it doesn't really make sense to buy a device that has one, does it?

Rizla · 10-16-2015, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Surely if you don't want a light, it doesn't really make sense to buy a device that has one, does it?

As the choice in e-readers becomes fewer and fewer, often one has no choice...

HarryT · 10-16-2015, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rizla

As the choice in e-readers becomes fewer and fewer, often one has no choice...

But one can buy a Kindle without a frontlight should one wish to do so.

knc1 · 10-16-2015, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Surely if you don't want a light, it doesn't really make sense to buy a device that has one, does it?

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=17

HarryT · 10-16-2015, 09:37 AM

The main reason people give for not wanting a frontlit reader is that the light diffuser somewhat lowers the screen contrast, by interposing an additional layer between the text and the reader. That's a valid argument, to be sure.

However, by buying a reader with a frontlight and then turning the light off, you're in the worst of both worlds - you still have the light diffuser reducing the contrast, but you no longer have the light to improve it again. It just seems crazy to me

. Either buy a device without a light diffuser, or buy an illuminated reader and use the light for what it's there for!

eschwartz · 10-16-2015, 09:42 AM

HarryT -- what if someone wants the Voyage's haptic feedback buttons on a touchscreen device, or the Kobo H2O's waterproofing?

Not a lot of alternatives... you will have to get a lighted model...

HarryT · 10-16-2015, 09:44 AM

A valid argument, certainly.

10-14-2015, 01:49 PM	#18
conan50 Fanatic Posts: 597 Karma: 14054112 Join Date: Jun 2014 Device: kindle	OK, I refused to let this thing beat me. I realized I had some sticky velcro. What I did was stick a piece of one side of the velcro onto my Paperwhite where the magnet will shut it off, and then wrapped my magnet in the opposite sticky velcro. So now I have an easy to remove magnet via the velcro and I just remove the magnet at the end of the day to power down the Paperwhite, and put it back on to shut off the front light completely. It looks like it will work. I could not do anything but reset the Paperwhite with the power button with the magnet on, but with it off the Paperwhite appears to power down. With the magnet removed when I push in the button for two light flashes it gives me the option to shut off the screen and then I can. I just leave the velcro-magnet attached but slightly off to the side. Then I turn the Paperwhite back on and move the magnet back into place to shut off the light. Yay! Last edited by conan50; 10-14-2015 at 01:52 PM.

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10-16-2015, 09:37 AM	#28
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,545 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The main reason people give for not wanting a frontlit reader is that the light diffuser somewhat lowers the screen contrast, by interposing an additional layer between the text and the reader. That's a valid argument, to be sure. However, by buying a reader with a frontlight and then turning the light off, you're in the worst of both worlds - you still have the light diffuser reducing the contrast, but you no longer have the light to improve it again. It just seems crazy to me . Either buy a device without a light diffuser, or buy an illuminated reader and use the light for what it's there for!

10-16-2015, 09:42 AM	#29
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	HarryT -- what if someone wants the Voyage's haptic feedback buttons on a touchscreen device, or the Kobo H2O's waterproofing? Not a lot of alternatives... you will have to get a lighted model...

10-16-2015, 09:44 AM	#30
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,545 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	A valid argument, certainly.

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