V4.2.5 beta channel release

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by kaufman

As long as you are updating the book menu, perhaps now would be the time to give it a more coherent (IMO) order.

Wouldn't it make more sense to put

Send book to
Open book with

first, and then the settings ones and the home screen and widget related ones? That would make them in most likely to be used order.

I'm also not sure why the filename template option is in this menu.

The filename template is there so you can adjust it and see what the result will be.

[kaufman]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

The filename template is there so you can adjust it and see what the result will be.

But why there specially? Wouldn't it make more sense to put it into the settings dialog or the connections dialog if there is some reason not to put it into the settings? It's not like the filename template has anything to do with book details.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by kaufman

As long as you are updating the book menu, perhaps now would be the time to give it a more coherent (IMO) order.

Wouldn't it make more sense to put

Send book to
Open book with

first, and then the settings ones and the home screen and widget related ones? That would make them in most likely to be used order.

I thought about putting the "Open book with" up near the "Send book to", but decided against it for three reasons.

• First, "send" and "read" are only peripherally related on a semantic basis. They both deal with books, but then so do most of the other menu items. They both deal with having something else deal with a book, but so do the shortcut menu items.
• Second, fumble-fingers me wanted to have the mistake be obvious if I accidentally tapped one but meant the other.
• Third, it would change the order of the menu, meaning anyone who had "muscle memory" would need retraining.

I'm also not sure why the filename template option is in this menu.

It is there for the same reason that "Choose items to display" is there. For the "Choose ...", one must have a book in order to know which columns are possible. If a person uses multiple libraries, some books will have column set A and others will have column set B. Similarly, when evaluating a template: one must have a real book in order to see the "real" result. The best way to verify that a template is producing the expected results is to evaluate the template using a known book with known metadata.

If anything, I could imagine swapping the Settings line with the Choose items to display line but brings up the muscle memory issue: it feels to me that changing the position where people are used to tapping is a significant negative.

[kaufman]

Well, send to and oopen with are the only ones related to using the book file with another app, so it feels like they go toegether for me.

I'm not sure I buy the muscle memory argument in this case. Do people really do much with the menu other than the send to and now the open with? Most of the others are one shots or once in a whiles.

One the other hand, in an almost daily use of CC over the last year or so, I've only been in this menu a handful of times, so this is all academic to me anyhow.

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by kaufman

So, last week someone was asking me about whether I planned to switch back to iOS this year. I showed him Calibre Companion, and now he knows to never ask that question again.

Same here. I bought my first Android tablet just so I could beta test this app before it was first released because I knew with Charles creating it the app would fit my needs.

[chaley]

V4.2.5b:

• Verify that the file for storing a cover image has extension "jpg" or "png"
• Updated languages: German, Russian, Spanish
• [BUGFIX]Fix "Something has gone wrong" returning from Cloud Settings
• [BUGFIX]Fix crash if cloud provider is changed from cloud book details

I expect this to be the last release of this beta cycle

[Purple Lady]

I finally tested, thanks for the open book with and fixing the white on white problem. I have a black on black problem on my T62 when a book gets sent automatically using the Reading List plug-in. I'm not sure when it started, but it was there in 4.2.4.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

I finally tested, thanks for the open book with and fixing the white on white problem. I have a black on black problem on my T62 when a book gets sent automatically using the Reading List plug-in. I'm not sure when it started, but it was there in 4.2.4.

Any idea what the dialog should be saying? Is it the sending books progress dialog? Reading list doesn't do anything special, so the problem should also occur whenever you do the "same thing" manually.

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by chaley

Any idea what the dialog should be saying? Is it the sending books progress dialog? Reading list doesn't do anything special, so the problem should also occur whenever you do the "same thing" manually.

I think it's the sending books progress dialog. I don't send books manually so I will have to check it out.

Edit: I just sent a book manually and it was all black.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

I think it's the sending books progress dialog. I don't send books manually so I will have to check it out.

Edit: I just sent a book manually and it was all black.

I have tested this on my T62 clone and I see the same thing.

I have fixed it so that the progress information shows properly. I am still trying to work out how to display the dialog title. I suppose that if push comes to shove, the dialog title can stay hard to read.

Interesting that this doesn't happen on my Afterglow 2.

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by chaley

I have tested this on my T62 clone and I see the same thing.

I have fixed it so that the progress information shows properly. I am still trying to work out how to display the dialog title. I suppose that if push comes to shove, the dialog title can stay hard to read.

Interesting that this doesn't happen on my Afterglow 2.

Thanks.

Isn't the Afterglow an Onyx device? Something actually works better on Onyx than a Boyue device? Or maybe you did a work around for Onyx that messed up the T62?

[chaley]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

Isn't the Afterglow an Onyx device? Something actually works better on Onyx than a Boyue device? Or maybe you did a work around for Onyx that messed up the T62?

The Afterglow 2 is indeed a rebranded Onyx C67ML.

TBH I prefer the Afterglow to the Boyue T62+ (in my case rebranded by Energy Systems). The afterglow is lighter and thinner, which is important for me because I carry it in my pocket. I see no difference in WiFi or app performance. Battery life is very good once I installed the latest Android update. On the other hand, the carta screen on the Boyue is better than the pearl screen on the Afterglow, and the Afterglow's small amount of app memory is a pain, but that is helped by the new firmware that lets apps move to internal user memory.

Oddly enough, the newest Onyx reader, the inkBOOK, is a rebranded Boyue T62+. It seems very similar to the Energy Systems version. The Afterglow is "out of stock". My guess is that it won't return.

The Afterglow didn't have the black-on-black problem for whatever reason. It is now fixed on the Boyue.

[snarkophilus]

Thanks for implementing "Open book with...". Tried it out this morning and it works wonderfully well on my Samsung Tab S tablet.

Regarding its position in the book menu, I find it easy to use at the bottom of the menu. But given it's a feature I'll use only for those infrequent times I want to try a different reader I'm not going to use it often enough that the position in the menu will affect me too much.

Thanks again!

Cheers,
Simon.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by snarkophilus

Thanks for implementing "Open book with...". Tried it out this morning and it works wonderfully well on my Samsung Tab S tablet.

Regarding its position in the book menu, I find it easy to use at the bottom of the menu. But given it's a feature I'll use only for those infrequent times I want to try a different reader I'm not going to use it often enough that the position in the menu will affect me too much.

Thanks again!

Cheers,
Simon.

Thanks for the feedback.

You made a suggestion on the wish list thread to use long-press of the Read action bar item to choose a reader. That is a good idea to have in addition to the menu item. Unfortunately Android makes it very hard to receive long-press events on menus, so it won't happen.

[snarkophilus]

Originally Posted by chaley

Thanks for the feedback.

You made a suggestion on the wish list thread to use long-press of the Read action bar item to choose a reader. That is a good idea to have in addition to the menu item. Unfortunately Android makes it very hard to receive long-press events on menus, so it won't happen.

Charles, I'm pretty happy with the current method! I never really use book menu, hence my suggestion about using a long press.

Cheers,
Simon.