Please, do not distort my language!

[Turtle91]

OK... I figured out what's going on... I think...

It appears laji is using the file directly from the Calibre folders. As PeterT mentioned that filename is normalized and used STRICTLY BY CALIBRE.

The reasons for this normalization are spelled out here and here. This will not be changed, and I agree with those reasons (if that matters...lol).

One solution for laji is to simply use the Save To Disk function. This will automatically save the file with whatever filename/order you want - in UTF-8 - in whatever location you want. After that, if it doesn't show up in Acrobat properly, then that is an Acrobat problem.

You need to set your Save To Disk options in properties with the appropriate information. From laji's first post I would recommend: "{author_sort}: {title}" See image below:




Cheers,

[eschwartz]

Oh, well if you are using an application that simply shows the filename, then it will do just that. And filenames are a lousy way to describe something.


calibre does not offer the user control over filenames in the library. This is non-negotiable. You want to see "author - title" rather than "title - author"? That right there is a dealbreaker.
End of story.



As for calibre "killing" your language, it is required for cross-platform operation. calibre must work on WIndows, OSX, and linux -- and it is Windows, the platform that you use, that does not have proper support for UTF-8.

Originally Posted by laji

What you call "normalisation", really is "abnormalisation". Fortunately, not all languages of the world are so poor, as english. Hungarian, for example, has 46 letters - not 22, as english.

And, AGAIN: please, read, I wrote 3× already: what can be done manually, can be done automatically, to. If Calibre want preserve illogical, nationality-insulting, racist, discriminative filename system, then it can make temporary file for reading.

As I know, Kovid is hindu. Did he forget about english imperialists, who killed people in India? Or does he like it? In any case: I do not like the killing of my language.

Your attitude is no longer tolerable.

[PeterT]

Calm down.

Calibre is designed as a cross platform, cross language system. Inherent in it's design are decisions as to how to handle file names in an OS safe manner.

The fact that YOU disagree with these decisions is your problem; not ours.

So sure, calibre could decide to do an implicit save-to-disk operation before launching an external application. Great.... I see it now. YOU will be complaining because you are now out of diskspace. Why? Because calibre won't know when you have decided to close down your external application.

PS: No point replying to me; I won't be reading any of your diatribes.

[laji]

Turtle, please, read again my very first comment.

Please, do not say me, that I can export out the book, and read after. ALL force me to read directly, from Calibre. One click -- or export > open that folder > open that file: compare them! Why not to open book in outer application through this process, automatically? NO REAL ARGUMENT against.

[laji]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Your attitude is no longer tolerable.

Language-killing discrimination is tolerable?

You are english native speaker. You NEVER understand, what is happening in the world against other nations and languages.

Or do you think, english is better, than other languages?

And, AGAIN: please, read, I wrote 4× already: what can be done manually, can be done automatically, to.

All other: only circumlocution.

[Turtle91]

laji,

People here have been pretty patient with you. We are trying to get your concern resolved. However, going on rants saying how a piece of software can be nationally insulting, racist, and discriminatory, and bringing up ancient history to justify your rant will just get you ignored...or banned.

I hope the answer I provided helps you out. If not, then good luck and have a great life.

BTW, English has 26 letters...

Originally Posted by laji

OK. But I do not see the reason, why did you write this reply. Do you think, I do not understand these facts? "...is caused by two things": this is, simply, not true.

1. and 2. points of your reply: both must not be. Simply, no reason, why. Foobar2000 can play a FLAC file and do with it anything, what you want, and send it to any other application (through Tools) -- and does not force me to store my files in "his" place, with language-killer filenames. Files all remains with own, ANY language filename, with own letters -- hungarian too, russian too, greek too...

Total Commander can handle it, too. Windows too. Mp3tag too. All they can do ANYTHING, without killing the language.

What you call "normalisation", really is "abnormalisation". Fortunately, not all languages of the world are so poor, as english. Hungarian, for example, has 46 letters - not 22, as english.

And, AGAIN: please, read, I wrote 3× already: what can be done manually, can be done automatically, to. If Calibre want preserve illogical, nationality-insulting, racist, discriminative filename system, then it can make temporary file for reading.

As I know, Kovid is hindu. Did he forget about english imperialists, who killed people in India? Or does he like it? In any case: I do not like the killing of my language.

[laji]

Originally Posted by Turtle91

or banned

OK. I see well the limits of democracy. While not english is killed...

Let's follow simply technically.


I wrote 5× already: what can be done manually, can be done automatically, to. Are you against? Can you answer me this question?

BTW: of course, whose language is english, can be "patient". Try MY situation.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by laji

Language-killing discrimination is tolerable?

You are english native speaker. You NEVER understand, what is happening in the world against other nations and languages.

Or do you think, english is better, than other languages?

And, AGAIN: please, read, I wrote 4× already: what can be done manually, can be done automatically, to.

All other: only circumlocution.

If you really want to know... I am merely pointing out that you have been reported for violating the MR Posting guidelines.

MobileRead reserves the right to limit discussion that is outside the realm of good taste, or uses foul or hateful language. We won't tolerate any form of hate-speech.

Read the posting guidelines, there is some good stuff there.

MR is not a democracy. The Site Administrators are all-powerful.

[theducks]

If you do not like the way Calibre handles your books,
do not use it.
Uninstall , end problem

[laji]

Anybody can answer my strictly technical question above?

[Turtle91]

Originally Posted by laji

OK. I see well the limits of democracy. While not english is killed...

Let's follow simply technically.


I wrote 5× already: what can be done manually, can be done automatically, to. Are you against? Can you answer me this question?

BTW: of course, whose language is english, can be "patient". Try MY situation.

laji - listen to the answers you are given to your 5x and maybe you can avoid saying it a sixth time.

Software will never do everything that everyone wants all the time. Calibre has it's own file system for reasons you don't wish to accept. Your issue is not with Calibre's file system. Your issue is that you are opening the wrong file with your pdf reader and that you don't want to click one button to put the file in the format you want.

Sorry. We have given you a solution to achieve what you want within the confines of the software. If you don't like it, then you can design and program your own plugin to make it do as you wish...

Cheers,

[laji]

OK. I preserve the right to be absolutly not agree with you. Thank you for attention.

[eschwartz]

Here is my answer (thanks, PeterT, for graciously providing a useful form letter )

Originally Posted by PeterT

Calibre is designed as a cross platform, cross language system. Inherent in it's design are decisions as to how to handle file names in an OS safe manner.

The fact that YOU disagree with these decisions is your problem; not ours.

So sure, calibre could decide to do an implicit save-to-disk operation before launching an external application. Great.... I see it now. YOU will be complaining because you are now out of diskspace. Why? Because calibre won't know when you have decided to close down your external application.

PS: No point replying to me; I won't be reading any of your diatribes.

I now have another thread to add to my subscriptions folder where I save peoples' rants abut the FAQ. Yay for me.
I am really surprised none of these excitable individuals have written their own competitor program, after all these years of complaining...

[HarryT]

Moderator Notice
Banned for making gratuitously insulting political comments. This will not be tolerated from anybody.

[aleyx]

Originally Posted by laji

Anybody can answer my strictly technical question above?

The short, strictly technical answer is: No, what can be done manually cannot, actually, be done automatically as a matter of fact.

At the very most, it may be done. Perhaps. If the manual task is compatible with the limits of automation.

I wish, in fact, that it could, because it would make my job (as a sysadmin in a hospital) a lot easier. I wouldn't have, for example, to manually create seven or eight accounts in seven or eight applications whenever a new user begins their work in my hospital.

Oh, and FYI, I AM FRENCH. When it comes to language preservation, you won't find worse nitpickers than us. So please calm down and smell the roses, or something.

N.