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I have just finished the book and need to mull over it a bit as it's now late. I loved it and it was a five star book for me.
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I'm still waiting on the list to get the ebook either from the WPLC or the FLP. Having read TH White's Once and Future King more than once (it was one of my favorite early teen books. A progression with age for fascination with the King Arthur legend, though my earliest reads substituted Guinevere's liaison with Lancelot with her being tricked into poisoning one of the Knights of the Round Table by Morgan le Fay) I am interested in reading this as much for the connection to TH White as for insights into hawking.
Yes I recall that bit as well as Wart's experience as a fish transformed back to human just as a pike is about to get him. And as a worker ant. Wonderful teen book that gets more adult as it progresses to the most famous part of the King Arthur legend. |
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One comment I liked, because it is so true of how many people view animals and how their reading shapes their opinion and attitude towards animals, so that they do not see the animal for itself. She refers to this in connection with a book by J A Baker about peregrine falcons: Quote:
Another passage I marked is close to the end of the book, where she talks about the lessons she has learned from spending time with Mabel: Quote:
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I am halfway through and really enjoying the book. It is quite an ambitious task with the various threads of biography and history that she is weaving with her own story of dealing with grief. I don't feel that it comes across as false or exaggerated but occasionally maybe like she is trying too hard if that makes sense. I think it is interesting that she has had a passion for birds and nature since childhood.
I found this great article from the perspective of another falconer and his review of the books (no spoilers are in it). http://www.allaboutbirds.org/a-falco...h-is-for-hawk/ Quote:
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I have fond memories of this book from my childhood. I mentioned in last month's discussion thread that I had recently reread The Once and Future King earlier this year. From an adult perspective I was fascinated by the hawking discussions and that TH White had written a book about training a goshawk. That's what led me to Helen Macdonald's book and why I nominated H is for Hawk.
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Thanks very much for the link to the article and review, Bookworm_Girl. Lovely to see the photographs, which were presumably in the hardcover book, but not in the ebook.
It's a long time since I read The Once and Future King but I loved it, having always had a fascination with the Arthurian legends. One of these days ... |
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An earlier one was the beginning when she started driving “without a clue” as to where was off to until she was halfway there. Little innocuous things like these lead me to think she may have a touch of a melodramatic or exaggerative inclination that slips out at times. There was even a point where she consciously reeled herself back in, writing something about no one in the park noticing her and the hawk and then writing that well of course people noticed. |
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I think that's the difference between feeling and logic!
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Yep, totally agree Bookpossum!
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That was a wonderful book. Kudos to everyone who nominated and voted for it.
There are several threads in this book - grieving for a suddenly-dead parent, training a goshawk, a long-dead writer, and the relationship of humans to the wild - which aren’t all clearly related. I think that she did a splendid job in linking her story of training a goshawk with the story of T.H.White, and in describing how humans relate to the wild in these contexts. The only odd note for me in this book was that the thread of grieving for her father wasn’t strongly connected to the other threads. However, there were some fine expressions of the grieving process, as in “Sometimes a reckoning comes of all the lives we have lost, and sometimes we take it upon ourselves to burn them to ashes”. There were many other things I liked about this book. The prose was engaging and ofter bright; there were great lines like “I’d never met men like these. They wore tweeds and offered me snuff.” and “...the gloriously titled Harting's Hints on Hawks. All the boys’ books.” and the wonderful inversions of “Take her outside. Man her in the streets.” The finest thing in this book is how Helen Macdonald made T.H.White’s life a part of her story. At one point, she quoted Sylvia Townsend on T.H.White - “I have never felt such an imminent haunt”. The ghost of T.H.White haunts this book, as she described so movingly “When I trained my hawk I was having a quiet conversation, of sorts, with the deeds and works of a long-dead man”. Her interpretation of White and Gos was so compelling that as soon as I finished “H is for Hawk” I flew immediately to White’s “The Goshawk”. |
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"I had put myself in the hawk's wild mind to tame her, and as the days passed in the darkened room my humanity was burning away." I was suddenly reminded of a passage in Ursula Le Guin's fantasy novel A Wizard of Earthsea. The hero is called "Sparrowhawk" and in a moment of crisis he transforms into a hawk--the creature who most shares his nature. "Ged had taken hawk-shape in fierce distress and rage . . . . The falcon's anger and wildness were like his own, and had become his own, and his will to fly had become the falcon's will. . . . In all the sunlight and dark of that great flight he had worn the falcon's wings, and looked through the falcon's eyes, and forgetting his own thoughts he had known at last only what the falcon knows: hunger, the wind, the way he flies." There are interesting parallels in the two passages and I wonder if Macdonald had ever read Le Guin. Of course the theme is not that uncommon and the similarity is most likely entirely coincidental. But it shows the fascination authors have with the wild nobility of the hawk. Le Guin is a remarkable woman of wide interests and I also wonder if she ever had any occasion to study falconry. Last edited by fantasyfan; 10-26-2015 at 08:13 AM. |
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Yes, I remember the passage now; Ged flees from Benderesk and Serret as a hawk and nearly loses his human personality. Yes, there is a very close analogy there.
Reading of Helen's fear that Mabel may not return, as T.H.White's Gos did not return, I'm also reminded of the opening of Yeat's The Second Coming: TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
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The sparrowhawk (American Kestrel) is very similar to a Merlin. I'm sure Le Guin had this in mind when she named the character.
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Interesting point fantasyfan. I had forgotten that event inA Wizard of Earthsea. I love Ursula Le Guin's writing.
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