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I have a Surface Pro 3 and I'm really happy with it. It's portable like a tablet and can do most things like a laptop - the combination of the touchscreen, keyboard cover, and to a certain extent the pen, make all the difference to versatility.
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I recently bought a Surface 3 (three weeks ago) and I love it. I still have an ipad mini and two Kindle fires but the Surface is my large go to tablet, I'd replace my 7 inch Fire again but not my ipad. I have the type pad and the pen, plus a mouse. I use it as a tablet most of the time which is where the pen is really useful, only hooking up the type cover and mouse when I need to do lots of typing. I have apps plus desktop programs like Calibre and iTunes loaded. It's the best of both worlds.
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My comments are geared towards the claim that the combination laptop/tablet computers are going grab a big chuck of the market, not that some people don't like them. According to what I read, this "big growth" of Windows has them up to around 9 percent of tablet units shipped last quarter. Good compared to where they were, not so good compared to Apple or Android. The question is whither or not this growth is purely about the initial hype and marketing push or if it's sustainable. A lot of devices have sputtered after the initial marketing push. If they are the hot new Christmas gift for 4th quarter and continue to grow, then they might have something. |
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Three years is an eternity in the computing world, to say nothing of five. In that time Intel got serious about mobile processors (the current Atoms are really good SOCs, to say nothing of the newest Core CPUs; you can get a tablet with a Core i7!), Microsoft matured Azure and refined its mobile message, and now they got Win10 out the door. It's a whole different environment. And the devices are entirely different. MS started Surface to prod their OEMs out of their slacker designs and they've general succeeded. Quality has gone up and the crapware is starting to vanish, especially with MS selling the Signature Editions to make the point that people prefer clean Windows. Like with everything else, there will still be tablet users out there but the whole tablets will kill laptops meme is on the way out the door. |
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I think there will be a plurality of computing form factors.
Erroneous viewpoints developed because many projected the iPad (really, any new Apple product) to emulate the iPhone successes (90+% of all smartphone profits). They're making the same mistake with the Watch and they'll make it again with the Car. These will be safe, profitable businesses for Apple, but they'll be niches. The iPad is a safe profitable business for Apple, just like its laptop business is. Both trend toward niches though. The iPhone was an aberration. Windows the OS was an aberration. Nothing in human history will ever again do for one company what Windows did for MS and what the iPhone did for Apple. There will always be pluralities. That's how markets work. Last edited by Shane R; 08-23-2015 at 10:09 AM. |
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PS2 almost made it there. Kindle is getting close to that threshold. In each of those cases you have a good product that goes essentially unchallenged because the opposition misread the market. And, as you say, those events are rare, generational outliers. |
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Too bad Google isn't raking in some funds off of Android. If I were an investor, I'd be a little miffed at that. |
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I used to used to be like you and used my tablet (an Acer W4) and a laptop independent of each other and each for their own purpose. Since I moved to the Surface 3 it has taken over a nice portion of what I previously would have preferentially pulled the laptop out for. It has enough screen size and power that it works. The FULL WINDOWS factor is why I see convertibles/hybrids/tablets taking over more of the market. You're not giving up functionality over a laptop and people are either used to a smaller screen due to phones/phablets/tablets or they just hook it to an external monitor when they need bigger screen real estate. EDIT TO ADD: and on the moving hands off keyboard: since you can use full windows with the exact version of Office etc you're using on your laptop, if you're using keyboard shortcuts on your laptop you can use exactly the same keyboard shortcuts on your tablet with a keyboard. Last edited by robko; 08-23-2015 at 09:18 PM. Reason: Add info |
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They used to say a 3.5" screen iPhone was all you needed, now they sell about twice that large a screen. The iPad was to be a new era for computers. Now it appears to be not much at all. The iWatch was a new "coming." Now not so much. Apple TV has been kicked around for a while now. Anyone have one? iTunes makes people mad. ... Apple needs not only new tricks, they need a new "pony." |
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