What for $120? - Page 2

babloyi · 02-24-2015, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Kobos have a lot more customization options, including fonts, margins, etc., whereas Kindles have a cleaner and simpler UI. Also the Kindle has a reputation for solid firmware, and Kobo for slightly buggy fimware (mostly centered around the aforementioned options I believe).

I've checked out a few videos online, a bit difficult to tell which is more readable or preferable just by looking. Theoretically more options is better, but if it comes at the cost of bugs...

bah...which is cheaper for the same set of features?

eschwartz · 02-24-2015, 11:35 AM

Since I wouldn't use those features, I prefer not having them clutter up the UI/menus.

GERGE · 02-24-2015, 11:39 AM

Kindle doesn't have hyphenation and as far as I know it is always justified. This really bugs some people (me included but I am a typography nerd).

But there are hacks to fix this problem.

Software-wise, I think Kobo is the best.

eschwartz · 02-24-2015, 11:43 AM

I believe the Kindle assumes justification but will not override the alignment specified in the CSS. So all you really need to do is edit every single book... (or Modify EPUB can do a batch Embed custom CSS).

HarryT · 02-24-2015, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I believe the Kindle assumes justification but will not override the alignment specified in the CSS.

That's correct. If no justification is specifically specified in a book, the Kindle will display it fully justified, but if the book explicitly specifies (for example) left justification, the Kindle will honour that.

babloyi · 02-24-2015, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Since I wouldn't use those features, I prefer not having them clutter up the UI/menus.

Which Kindle do you recommend then, that would have the minimum required features with the largest screen size? Paperwhite?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GERGE

Software-wise, I think Kobo is the best.

Which kobo, then? Same question

.

eschwartz · 02-24-2015, 12:32 PM

The All-new Basic Kindle (again

) Now With Touch... a/k/a KT2 (Kindle Touch 2).

For ~$80 you get a touchscreen Kindle with all the standard Kindle amenities, but no frontlit display and somewhat lower resolution. But you might want a PW if the display matters to you (for comics?) -- check the specs on Amazon if that is a factor.

GERGE · 02-24-2015, 12:54 PM

Frontlight actually matters quite a bit, if you have $120 go for it. You might think that it doesn't matter (I used to think the same), but improvement is really great. It has no strain on the eye since it is not backlight and the screen is fixed.

About Kobo readers, answer to your question is easy to give. Your friend owes you $120, Kobo Aura is $129. Tell her to buy you the Aura, and than give her $10. Aura is one of the best readers out there. Not very pricey like Voyage and H2O, and not slowly going out of circulation like Glo.

On Kindle side, there is only Kindle Paperwhite 2 with special offers suitable to your budget.

But I am telling you again, screen light is kind of important, really important. It is one of those things you don't know how great they are until you have them.

I still think that Kindles are bad typographically and since they are reading devices... I know that there are hacks, but there shouldn't be any need for hacks. This lackluster attitude of Amazon towards typography makes me dislike them. Although the new typeface (Bookerly) they commissioned from Dalton Maag is quite good for eInk, maybe there is still hope for Amazon.

susan_cassidy · 02-24-2015, 01:37 PM

Someone mentioned Amazon's Kindle Unlimited program. I doubt that it is available in Pakistan.

eschwartz · 02-24-2015, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GERGE

Frontlight actually matters quite a bit, if you have $120 go for it. You might think that it doesn't matter (I used to think the same), but improvement is really great. It has no strain on the eye since it is not backlight and the screen is fixed.

...

But I am telling you again, screen light is kind of important, really important. It is one of those things you don't know how great they are until you have them.

Nice opinion.

Having read on both my own non-lit device and a friend's borrowed PW2, I can say with absolute certainty... that some people don't give a hoot. In a very informed manner, mind you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by susan_cassidy

Someone mentioned Amazon's Kindle Unlimited program. I doubt that it is available in Pakistan.

Someone also mentioned he had no intent of touching any stores with his regulation-issue ten-foot-pole... which makes it extra irrelevant.

meeera · 02-24-2015, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Since I wouldn't use those features, I prefer not having them clutter up the UI/menus.

The Kindle still has menu items for fonts and margins, it just has fewer choices available. There's no "menu clutter" savings at all.

babloyi · 02-25-2015, 02:06 AM

I would rather prefer epaper/eink tech, because otherwise I may as well read books on my phone. So it seems that for that, the consensus would be a kobo device or Paperwhite 2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GERGE

About Kobo readers, answer to your question is easy to give. Your friend owes you $120, Kobo Aura is $129. Tell her to buy you the Aura, and than give her $10.

Where are you checking prices? I cannot find this price for the Aura anywhere...

GERGE · 02-25-2015, 05:13 AM

Kobo.com

But you need US ip address for it to work.

babloyi · 02-25-2015, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GERGE

Kobo.com

But you need US ip address for it to work.

Weird...even with a US IP, it lists the price as $149.99 for me.

John F · 02-25-2015, 06:15 AM

It looks like the code PERKOPOLIS is still active for 10% off an Aura (at least in the U.S.).

02-24-2015, 12:32 PM	#22
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	The All-new Basic Kindle (again ) Now With Touch... a/k/a KT2 (Kindle Touch 2). For ~$80 you get a touchscreen Kindle with all the standard Kindle amenities, but no frontlit display and somewhat lower resolution. But you might want a PW if the display matters to you (for comics?) -- check the specs on Amazon if that is a factor. Last edited by eschwartz; 02-24-2015 at 12:36 PM.

02-24-2015, 12:54 PM	#23
GERGE Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 5797160 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Istanbul Device: Kobo Libra	Frontlight actually matters quite a bit, if you have $120 go for it. You might think that it doesn't matter (I used to think the same), but improvement is really great. It has no strain on the eye since it is not backlight and the screen is fixed. About Kobo readers, answer to your question is easy to give. Your friend owes you $120, Kobo Aura is $129. Tell her to buy you the Aura, and than give her $10. Aura is one of the best readers out there. Not very pricey like Voyage and H2O, and not slowly going out of circulation like Glo. On Kindle side, there is only Kindle Paperwhite 2 with special offers suitable to your budget. But I am telling you again, screen light is kind of important, really important. It is one of those things you don't know how great they are until you have them. I still think that Kindles are bad typographically and since they are reading devices... I know that there are hacks, but there shouldn't be any need for hacks. This lackluster attitude of Amazon towards typography makes me dislike them. Although the new typeface (Bookerly) they commissioned from Dalton Maag is quite good for eInk, maybe there is still hope for Amazon. Last edited by GERGE; 02-24-2015 at 01:01 PM.

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02-24-2015, 11:35 AM	#17
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Since I wouldn't use those features, I prefer not having them clutter up the UI/menus.

02-24-2015, 11:39 AM	#18
GERGE Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 5797160 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Istanbul Device: Kobo Libra	Kindle doesn't have hyphenation and as far as I know it is always justified. This really bugs some people (me included but I am a typography nerd). But there are hacks to fix this problem. Software-wise, I think Kobo is the best.

02-24-2015, 11:43 AM	#19
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	I believe the Kindle assumes justification but will not override the alignment specified in the CSS. So all you really need to do is edit every single book... (or Modify EPUB can do a batch Embed custom CSS).

02-24-2015, 01:37 PM	#24
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	Someone mentioned Amazon's Kindle Unlimited program. I doubt that it is available in Pakistan.

02-25-2015, 05:13 AM	#28
GERGE Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 5797160 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Istanbul Device: Kobo Libra	Kobo.com But you need US ip address for it to work.

02-25-2015, 06:15 AM	#30
John F Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,950 Karma: 70880793 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo Clara 2E	It looks like the code PERKOPOLIS is still active for 10% off an Aura (at least in the U.S.).

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