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Amazon is just easy to use. They don't always have the best price or selection. There are items that Amazon doesn't have. |
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And people can always buy the pbook or get it at their local library. |
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The problem is the missed sales for the author and publisher, not that the Kindle owners can't do it. |
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Not to mention that even during Amazon's playing of "hardball," they didn't "drop" any books. "pre-orders" are a negotiable perk. Lack of being able to pre-order doesn't deter readers. They either pre-order somewhere else or buy it when it actually releases. Again; Sargent's statement had nothing to do with MacMillan's titles "reaching" readers. He just wants more control over HOW—and even more to the point; for HOW MUCH—his purely-for-profit bundles of electrons reach those readers.
And that's fine. Just don't try to snow people with that "it's all for the readers" crap. |
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Put it on the list, buy it later. No muss, no fuss. Pre-order button angst isn't about readers *at all*. It is about publishers incapable of market research relying on Amazon preorders to set the size of a print run. http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog...poly-or-j.html Quote:
Because some people think it is a human right to have their books preordered by Amazon without a contract in place that guarantees delivery. Last edited by fjtorres; 12-20-2014 at 09:37 AM. |
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Are you hinting at the possibility that some pre-orders may not be fulfilled by Amazon (not their fault), or do you mean that Amazon will never put up a pre-order option unless it can guarantee delivery? And in the case they can't, they sue for contract breach?
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That is why they regularly remove pre-order buttons for items due out *after* existing contracts expire. (Hachette wasn't the only time they removed them. It appears to be their policy. They did it with Disney and WB on DVDS. The two kept negotiating without public whining.) Would you take an order for a product you have no assurance you can actually deliver? I wouldn't. Some people would and do. I've run into them. (Buy.com did it to me. I no longer buy books or anything else from them. And they used to get almost as much business from me as Amazon.) So far, Amazon hasn't failed to deliver on my pre-orders. Typically, they ship the day before release and I get it the day after. Last edited by fjtorres; 12-20-2014 at 10:11 AM. |
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Thank you, that is what I thought. I myself have never been disappointed by pre-orders. Granted I only tried Amazon so far and will continue to do so from your experience with buy.com.
Today I looked in my wishlist, and an item that I put in for $174 said it is now $104, and that I put it on the list for the much higher price. It made the difference of justifying it at a later time or ordering it immediately today at the lower price. Have to remember to check my wishlist at Amazon more often. ![]() Last edited by DuckieTigger; 12-20-2014 at 02:09 PM. Reason: typos typos typos |
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Finding stuff at Amazon--books, dvds, or whatever--isn't a challenge. Getting my interest piqued enough to get me to buy is a whole other story. One that MacMillan "marketing" and pricing usually fails. |
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But if they were to broaden their channels a bit, surely that would suck you right in and reach you, right? Right? Am I right?
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They literally don't care that their take is lower as long as we pay more. ("We" being theoretical in my case. I haven't bought anything from them since the conspiracy kicked in and I discovered I don't need any of their titles.) |
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It is not driven entirely by price point. I not only do not want to support the big publishing houses, I want them to fail if their business model includes perpetual control of the Intellectual property of their respective authors. I took this same course with my music purchases in the nineties. |
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