Why can't I email AZW3 to my Kindle Voyage? - Page 2

JSWolf · 12-09-2014, 07:51 AM

The short answer to the OP's question is because Amazon doesn't allow AZW3 to be emailed.

shamanNS · 12-09-2014, 07:59 AM

Perhaps you should read more carefully what people write & also rethink your tone. I was not offensive, I was not contemptuous, I just stated a fact. It is a part of a basic functionality of Calibre, it's is probably fairly easy to fix when compared to all the "unnecessary" and "bonus" functionality (like spell check) which was developed in last year or so.

I'm not even affected with this, as I don't use Amazon Cloud (so I have no need for dual mobi files), so it's not like I am bit**ing and moaning because of poor me can't have what I want.

eschwartz · 12-09-2014, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shamanNS

Perhaps you should read more carefully what people write & also rethink your tone. I was not offensive, I was not contemptuous, I just stated a fact. It is a part of a basic functionality of Calibre, it's is probably fairly easy to fix when compared to all the "unnecessary" and "bonus" functionality (like spell check) which was developed in last year or so.

I'm not even affected with this, as I don't use Amazon Cloud (so I have no need for dual mobi files), so it's not like I am bit**ing and moaning because of poor me can't have what I want.

For those who use the editor, spellcheck was one of the major things holding it back from replacing sigil in their workflow. Just because you don't value it does not make it unnecessary.

Since you don't even need dual mobi metadata editing, you say, maybe you should stop complaining...

And stop being contemptuous of features you don't use.

shamanNS · 12-09-2014, 04:42 PM

@eschwartz: I wrote "unnecessary". As in some people could objectively claim that such functionality is farther out of scope of lets say "original role(s)" (library organisation, metadata clean-up, format conversions) Calibre then supporting some "format no one uses anyway" (= dual mobi).

I myself use Calibre's Editor and am glad it exists (was especially happy when Calibre got ToC editor & "embed metadata" button), even if I still prefer Sigil for some thing like IMHO better UI for setting semantics and quicker way of jumping to CSS class via "Go to link or style".

If any other functionality I don't use was broken and I was somehow made aware of that fact I would again inform "the right people" that it needs fixing. I'm a busybody

eschwartz · 12-09-2014, 04:53 PM

Some people could claim that calibre's purpose is to be whatever the author intends it to be, in this case, a one-stop shop for anything ebooks. That includes editing apparently, which isn't really all that different from conversion.

dual-MOBI is not very often used, and it is sufficiently obscure that it might have flaws in calibre's handling of it.

Used trumps original scope in my books any day.

That being said, I would love for calibre to handle dual-MOBI better, if just on principle. But I don't blame Kovid for not doing so, since he has mentioned it before and said it would require an inconvenient amount of testing to make sure existing, widely-used functionality didn't break, in order to fix something that few use.

Me, I'm not much of a one for principles, I prefer plain old practicality and focus on priorities -- I suspect ultimately spellcheck makes more people happy than dual-MOBI handling updated metadata.

twowheels · 12-09-2014, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shamanNS

Perhaps you should read more carefully what people write & also rethink your tone. I was not offensive, I was not contemptuous, I just stated a fact.

OK, let's look at what you wrote...

Quote:

Originally Posted by shamanNS

That (renaming and all other metadata edits for dual mobi) is something that should have been addressed long time ago by Kovid

Hrm... Kovid should have done something? Maybe Kovid should have not spent so many years writing this program that makes so many people happy and given it away for free. Geez. Maybe contemptuous isn't the right word, but entitled and demanding would be a great fit.

Maybe the order of implementation has to do with who's willing and able to pick up a shovel and help dig rather than complaining that the hole isn't deep enough.

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12-09-2014, 07:51 AM	#16
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,757 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The short answer to the OP's question is because Amazon doesn't allow AZW3 to be emailed.

12-09-2014, 07:59 AM	#17
shamanNS Wizard Posts: 1,115 Karma: 12345678 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Serbia Device: Kindle PW5, Kobo Libra 2, Kindle PW1	Perhaps you should read more carefully what people write & also rethink your tone. I was not offensive, I was not contemptuous, I just stated a fact. It is a part of a basic functionality of Calibre, it's is probably fairly easy to fix when compared to all the "unnecessary" and "bonus" functionality (like spell check) which was developed in last year or so. I'm not even affected with this, as I don't use Amazon Cloud (so I have no need for dual mobi files), so it's not like I am bit**ing and moaning because of poor me can't have what I want.

12-09-2014, 04:42 PM	#19
shamanNS Wizard Posts: 1,115 Karma: 12345678 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Serbia Device: Kindle PW5, Kobo Libra 2, Kindle PW1	@eschwartz: I wrote "unnecessary". As in some people could objectively claim that such functionality is farther out of scope of lets say "original role(s)" (library organisation, metadata clean-up, format conversions) Calibre then supporting some "format no one uses anyway" (= dual mobi). I myself use Calibre's Editor and am glad it exists (was especially happy when Calibre got ToC editor & "embed metadata" button), even if I still prefer Sigil for some thing like IMHO better UI for setting semantics and quicker way of jumping to CSS class via "Go to link or style". If any other functionality I don't use was broken and I was somehow made aware of that fact I would again inform "the right people" that it needs fixing. I'm a busybody

12-09-2014, 04:53 PM	#20
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Some people could claim that calibre's purpose is to be whatever the author intends it to be, in this case, a one-stop shop for anything ebooks. That includes editing apparently, which isn't really all that different from conversion. dual-MOBI is not very often used, and it is sufficiently obscure that it might have flaws in calibre's handling of it. Used trumps original scope in my books any day. That being said, I would love for calibre to handle dual-MOBI better, if just on principle. But I don't blame Kovid for not doing so, since he has mentioned it before and said it would require an inconvenient amount of testing to make sure existing, widely-used functionality didn't break, in order to fix something that few use. Me, I'm not much of a one for principles, I prefer plain old practicality and focus on priorities -- I suspect ultimately spellcheck makes more people happy than dual-MOBI handling updated metadata.

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