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Old 11-21-2014, 05:16 PM   #16
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Battery (charge) life degrades as it gets colder. A low current draw (eink) would be a plus.

BTW Cold can be hard on devices, even if you don't use them. Condensation on internals. Hard drives that have been cold soaked (hours) need hours (1 per 5 deg F rise) to warm back up BEFORE you spin them up (learned that the hard way ). Do not leave your Laptop in the car overnight in cold weather (and really, NEVER if you wish to see it again )
So if you want to destroy evidence on a laptop just leave it out in the cold and then bring it into a warm room? Good to know.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:58 PM   #17
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So if you want to destroy evidence on a laptop just leave it out in the cold and then bring it into a warm room? Good to know.
No guarantee on the 'Destroy' . For that you need a hard drive shredder. (It is a MONSTER sized paper shredder in a truck that businesses use to destroy drive data they don't want recovered. EVER )

A good chance of making it unusable by the owner... Yep.
The Company I was working for had a much needed shipment of Point of Sale computers arrive almost at the deadline because the truck could not get through because of an ice storm.
We unloaded the truck, Opened the 20 cartons immediately, Powered them on to do the needed configuration. 50% had permanent hard drive issues within the first hour (We had installed over 1000 of these previously with no problem). We replaced the drives and finished the configuration and installed them in the store that evening. 2 more drive failed within the week.
From then on, all systems set on the bench without power for 24 hours. No more problems.
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Old 11-21-2014, 08:17 PM   #18
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Do you read outdoors when the temperature is below zero?
When it is below 0 C, certainly. The outdoors can be awfully peaceful when everyone else is hiding out indoors.

When it is below 0 F, eInk doesn't fare very well. I have read outdoors under such conditions, which is how I know that. I have also used LCD based devices to read outdoors under such conditions, just so that I could read for extended periods. It actually isn't so bad if you're bundled up properly and have a device with physical buttons for turning pages. (Touch screens and gloves don't work very well.)
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Old 11-21-2014, 08:20 PM   #19
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My ereader of choice is as tolerant of the cold as I am, so no need to switch. When I'm taking it somewhere it fits in my coat pocket, which zips shut, so it's secure.

Be interesting to see how cold temperatures would affect the NiMH batteries I use for it. Back in the 70s I had to keep spare batteries for my 35mm SLR (film) camera inside my coat because temps much below freezing would "deactivate" them. I haven't had any problems like that with my ereader, though.
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Old 11-21-2014, 08:34 PM   #20
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I am starting to appreciate the physical page turn buttons on my T62 - I can keep both arms under the blanket!
I find I'm not needing to be fully under the duvet. I keep the temperature at 65F at night starting at 10pm. It's not too cold at night indoors. Besides, all I need is a thumb to change the page. A quick and easy swipe works very well. Also, I don't have to keep my hand at any one place because of a button in a fixed location.
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Old 11-22-2014, 08:34 AM   #21
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Do you read outdoors when the temperature is below zero?
Yes, I read while waiting for the bus. I learnt the hard way last year that e-ink is not happy in extremely cold conditions so I have now switched to reading on my phone, which has the added bonus of being backlit, useful in the early nightfall of winter. I have mittens with a flip top which allow me sneak one fingertip out to turn pages, although I can also do that with the accelerometer and a flick of the wrist. Haven't quite got that motion down yet though.

So I load one book on my phone and a different book on my ereader for reading at home, and enjoy accordingly.
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Old 11-22-2014, 12:28 PM   #22
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Yes, I read while waiting for the bus. I learnt the hard way last year that e-ink is not happy in extremely cold conditions ...
I just noticed your location and ... it's good to know that bus service isn't all that great in Antarctica.
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Old 11-22-2014, 12:56 PM   #23
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When it is below 0 C, certainly. The outdoors can be awfully peaceful when everyone else is hiding out indoors.

When it is below 0 F, eInk doesn't fare very well. I have read outdoors under such conditions, which is how I know that. I have also used LCD based devices to read outdoors under such conditions, just so that I could read for extended periods. It actually isn't so bad if you're bundled up properly and have a device with physical buttons for turning pages. (Touch screens and gloves don't work very well.)
Sorry, I should of course have said "below freezing". In the UK the Celsius scale is used almost exclusively, so people often say "below zero" as a synonym for "below freezing".
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Old 11-22-2014, 04:47 PM   #24
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Paperbooks at work in the winter. Kindle can't handle sub-freezing weather, even if it just sits in the vehicle while I'm out working. And no warm up time needed for my paperback either :-)
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Sorry, I should of course have said "below freezing". In the UK the Celsius scale is used almost exclusively, so people often say "below zero" as a synonym for "below freezing".
"Forty below, into the din and glare..."
(I was going to say something witty, but )

just happens to be the same if converted from Fahrenheit to Celsius
(Service was an American )
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I just noticed your location and ... it's good to know that bus service isn't all that great in Antarctica.
What are you talking about?

The regularly scheduled bus services in Antarctica are never late...
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Do you read outdoors when the temperature is below zero?
I try my best to not be long enough outside

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So if you want to destroy evidence on a laptop just leave it out in the cold and then bring it into a warm room? Good to know.
run a secure del tool, and microwave the hardware

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I have now have mittens with a flip top which allow me sneak one fingertip out to turn pages
When I have to use my phone with gloves on I use my nose tip for the touchscreen.
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A microwave is certainly a very good way to destroy CDs and DVDs. Whenever I throw out old backup DVDs, I give them 30s in the microwave before doing so.
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A microwave is certainly a very good way to destroy CDs and DVDs. Whenever I throw out old backup DVDs, I give them 30s in the microwave before doing so.
I've never tried that. Can you just run the CDs and DVDs through a paper shredder?
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