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Old 11-11-2014, 06:03 PM   #16
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The Kindle does not require signing in. When you first turn it on, if you refuse to connect to WiFi it will pop up with an error-connecting and ask if you want to login later. Then it will drop you down to the main UI and never bug you again.

Unlike the Kobo there is no need to connect to the computer for the initial setup in order to avoid logging in.
In that case, how does Amazon know that the Voyage is registered, so that you can buy books for it?
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Old 11-11-2014, 06:08 PM   #17
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but the OP seems to be the former type. )
You give me WAY too much credit.

Still, it seems to me that a person should be able to buy an ereader device and side load from sites like this one or Gutenberg without whipping out a credit card to start an account with a store they won't use.

Is that an unreasonable expectation?
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Old 11-11-2014, 07:22 PM   #18
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Still, it seems to me that a person should be able to buy an ereader device and side load from sites like this one or Gutenberg without whipping out a credit card to start an account with a store they won't use.

Is that an unreasonable expectation?
No need to add a credit card to your Kobo account when you set it up/use it to set up/upgrade your device. Some people make up a fictitious e-mail account or use a throw away one.

So no, that's not an unreasonable expectation
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:20 PM   #19
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In that case, how does Amazon know that the Voyage is registered, so that you can buy books for it?
They don't, obviously. That is rather the point.

Note that one can still buy Amazon books without a Kindle.
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They don't, obviously. That is rather the point.

Note that one can still buy Amazon books without a Kindle.
I do it. But you need an app if you don't have a Kindle. You need something.

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Old 11-11-2014, 08:48 PM   #21
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I do it. But you need an app if you don't have a Kindle. You need something.

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True. Although technically Amazon will let you anyway, after first asking "Are you sure? You don't have a Kindle or Kindle app or anything".
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Old 11-12-2014, 02:57 AM   #22
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I do it. But you need an app if you don't have a Kindle. You need something.

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Actually you don't. Amazon let you buy books even if you have no devices or apps registered. You can read them in the Cloud Reader.
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Actually you don't. Amazon let you buy books even if you have no devices or apps registered. You can read them in the Cloud Reader.
Ah, I didn't know about the cloud reader. I have never used it and don't even know how. But I did say you have to have something. I did notice that eschwartz says you can override the warning that you have no device and buy it anyway. But I would have no idea how you could download it. Perhaps they are thinking you are going to buy a device or get one for Christmas.

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Yes, that's perfectly true: you can't download it without a device or app; all that you can do is read it in the Cloud Reader (ie in a web browser). I'm sure you're right about someone planning to buy a Kindle being the intended audience for such a capability.
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:17 PM   #25
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Ah, I didn't know about the cloud reader. I have never used it and don't even know how. But I did say you have to have something.

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And I said you don't.

You can activate the Cloud Reader as a Kindle device, but if you don't you can still purchase and Amazon won't stop you. They just warn you that you don't have anything to read it on, and if you click buy anyway they offer you links to the apps IIRC.

Edit: yeah, probably.
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