Aura HD questions before to buy it

[robko]

Originally Posted by trocchietto

Edit ps I expect also that the h20 will be ok impermeable but mainly also anti scratch so that I can bring it in my bag without a protection

I'm not sure it will be any more scratch resistant, but in a bag my bigger concern would be twisting or bending causing screen substrate breakage. No indication that the H2O will have a plastic substrate (rather than the current glass) so that concern remains for devices traveling in a bag.

[cybmole]

Originally Posted by booklover6

Well some of us prefer the look of the lighted eink screen to the look of a backlit screen. Tablets have shine/glare that I personally don't want to stare at for hours at a time.

I think that is mostly a myth - if you use epub reader app that let you set background colour you have can opague "paper looking" paper, or even a white text no black "night mode"


I am currently using Mantano reader & have tweaked the backround colour to match the Kindle reader's sepia setting. The Moon + reader also has lots of backgroud colour options.

with that set up, if I puy my Kindle fire & my Kobo Aura HD side by side, with similar brightness settings, there's no great back lit effect - indoors.

outdoors is a different story, in sunlight the tablets turn into mirrors!

so really I'd say the trade off is battery life, vs being able to have a slpash of colour in your books & for your covers

[booklover6]

Originally Posted by cybmole

I think that is mostly a myth - if you use epub reader app that let you set background colour you have can opague "paper looking" paper, or even a white text no black "night mode"

No, it's not a "myth" it is my personal experience after having tried reading on the Nexus 7.2, the Nook HD, the Nook HD+, the Kindle Fire HD 1 & 2. They all have shiny reflective screens, like mirrors. I've used Mantano, Moon+ Pro, and many other apps. Many different backgrounds and light settings. While the Nexus 7.2 with Moon+ Pro is superior, there is still a glare, and thus, still inferior to the lighted e-ink screen.

[cybmole]

I get where you are coming from - but I trade a little glare for having a much higher resolution + colour screen & am happy to read only in locations where the reflectivity is not an issue.

the aura HD is immensely frustrating when there's image or a map within a book & I cannot make out the details.
Yes - some times of image, in some formats, will zoom some of the time; but not as effectively as those in tablet apps. A double tap in Mantano will zoom any image.

with epub3 maybe not that far away, I am not sure that I'd now commit to an epub2 only, black & white only e-ink device & certainly not one with a fragile screen that is excluded from warranty. ( I read that Kobo used to replace failed screens/substrates in warranty but not not any more - I think Amazon still do though)

PS - bird-friendly is maybe another consideration. my old Sony devices were notorious for auto turning every page & finishing the book for me , because a budgie feather had landed on the touch screen

[dordale]

Originally Posted by booklover6

No, it's not a "myth" it is my personal experience after having tried reading on the Nexus 7.2, the Nook HD, the Nook HD+, the Kindle Fire HD 1 & 2. They all have shiny reflective screens, like mirrors. I've used Mantano, Moon+ Pro, and many other apps. Many different backgrounds and light settings. While the Nexus 7.2 with Moon+ Pro is superior, there is still a glare, and thus, still inferior to the lighted e-ink screen.

I agree with Birdlover6 on this--for fiction reading, I almost always turn to my e-ink devices. I do from occasion, read on my iPad, but in most lighting situations the glare is very noticable to me and I spend a lot of time finding an angle for the iPad that reduces the glare.

Now, there are definitely occasions when the iPad is my preferred device--reading magazines and some non-fiction pdfs with maps or diagrams--being able to zoom in easily like Cymole points out is a definite advantage of tablets.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by cybmole

with epub3 maybe not that far away, I am not sure that I'd now commit to an epub2 only, black & white only e-ink device & certainly not one with a fragile screen that is excluded from warranty. ( I read that Kobo used to replace failed screens/substrates in warranty but not not any more - I think Amazon still do though)

Ummm.... one of the two renderers in the current Kobo firmware is already epub3 -- the ACCESS renderer used for .kepub.epub books. The other renderer (RMSDK) is moving in the direction of epub3 compatibility and by the time I can actually borrow an epub3 book from the local library consortium, it is likely to be there.

Regards,
David

[trocchietto]

come on


coulored highlighting is freaky cool

i want a more efficient note management so that i can decide how many notes row i can read in notes activity and what kobo looks to miss is a find note research. i hacked up this on sony so that i tag notes and look for them with find, but is frustrating because on sony every time i click on an highlight i go to the page and cannot go back to thr highlight page again
this brings to..... highlighted color notes, i want to read on white paper but.... first i want/ need/ deserve to see my colored cover when i take the book( there is not one real reader that would not love this) and reading on my nice eink whitened by the luminosity but.... having the power to highlight with different colors and RECALL the notes by color so that i can easily once i read a book recall the red notes that have first priority then eventually see the green notes that have another importance and then the green notes that are just key words and so on. can we do that? when? why not? give me my ideal reader please!

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by trocchietto

come on


coulored highlighting is freaky cool

i want a more efficient note management so that i can decide how many notes row i can read in notes activity and what kobo looks to miss is a find note research. i hacked up this on sony so that i tag notes and look for them with find, but is frustrating because on sony every time i click on an highlight i go to the page and cannot go back to thr highlight page again
this brings to..... highlighted color notes, i want to read on white paper but.... first i want/ need/ deserve to see my colored cover when i take the book( there is not one real reader that would not love this) and reading on my nice eink whitened by the luminosity but.... having the power to highlight with different colors and RECALL the notes by color so that i can easily once i read a book recall the red notes that have first priority then eventually see the green notes that have another importance and then the green notes that are just key words and so on. can we do that? when? why not? give me my ideal reader please!

Perhaps to you, coloured highlighting is freaky cool. I'm from a generation that marked up our textbooks with multicoloured highlighters. I never did mark up fiction books, nor did I read them with a dictionary and thesaurus at hand. As I said, my use for highlighting in ebooks is for errors -- spelling, grammatical, continuity, etc. -- so that I can fix them later. No need for more than one colour though I can overlap highlights and get multiple shades of gray.

As for needing coloured covers? Sorry but I very seldom look at the covers of dead tree books much less ebooks. For the most part covers make me feel vaguely ill at the best. Most of the cover illustrations were done by people with no idea of the contents of the book -- as a horrid example, the cover illustration for Wen Spencer's Elfhome -- neither Impatience or Tinker look even vaguely like their descriptions in the books. I suspect Tinker would not be caught dead in the costume on the cover -- if for no other reason, she is wearing a couple of pounds of metal which might have "interesting effects" if she called on the Spell Stones. We'll leave out the rest of the costume to keep the moderators happy other than to say a t-shirt and cargo shorts would be more Tinker's style than a variant on a Princess Leia slave costume. As for Impatience, about 3.6 meters longs, blood red scales, wedge shaped head that seems too large for the body, shaggy mane, short legs, heavy claws. See http://www.baenebooks.com/popup.aspx...451637830B.jpg for more of this $#%^&*).

If I really need to see a colour image of a cover, I can always dig out the Nexus 7 HD or the iPad Air or my laptop. Sadly, I find reading on an eInk screen to be much kinder to my eyes that a backlit LCD. Even an light emitting AMOLED display is not easy on my eyes.

Regards,
David

[trocchietto]

ciao David

Originally Posted by DNSB

Perhaps to you, coloured highlighting is freaky cool. I'm from a generation that marked up our textbooks with multicoloured highlighters. I never did mark up fiction books, nor did I read them with a dictionary and thesaurus at hand. As I said, my use for highlighting in ebooks is for errors -- spelling, grammatical, continuity, etc. -- so that I can fix them later. No need for more than one colour though I can overlap highlights and get multiple shades of gray.

nice to overlap highlights, but I miss the study functionality to organize and recall highlights in no fiction books, if I were a more novel oriented person, as I would read 1, max 2 novels per time, i would just buy a book, i personally use ereaders, cause I have tons of books i consult and study, and need sometimes dozens of them on the same session., it is about personal taste, but ... is a pity for me I do not have the possibility to decently study with an ereader, I would like to buy the jetco color, but cost a fortune, and i do not know if I am going to have issues with the time what willhappen to this brand once i convert all the highlights to other brands.

As for needing coloured covers? Sorry but I very seldom look at the covers of dead tree books much less ebooks. For the most part covers make me feel vaguely ill at the best. Most of the cover illustrations were done by people with no idea of the contents of the book -- as a horrid example

David, i understand what you mean indeed but I do not agree on this because is a mechanism of association, that makes a library beautiful and you remember that period, things give you emotions, sometimes cover are terrible, but other time are nice, always instead are part of that book ritual you see the cover you remember the story, nobody would be disappointed to see the color cover, actually this is why companies allow you on default to put as safe screen the book you are reading, just I want to see the color, because it would remember me a real book, on the same principle is based the fact light gives you a more white experience, more page paper similar

If I really need to see a colour image of a cover, I can always dig out the Nexus 7 HD or the iPad Air or my laptop. Sadly, I find reading on an eInk screen to be much kinder to my eyes that a backlit LCD. Even an light emitting AMOLED display is not easy on my eyes.

I want all the books in one place, with the page, tablets are not an option as you say are backlighted and unreadable. people that read systematically book on tablets jsut do not take my respect, because will be an issue of the future. do you remember cigarettes, when they went out were pubblished as good for the throat ache. Studies already show that reading tablets before to sleep is a bad habit that cause insomnia

I can barely think about the consequences in terms of headache and eyes problems.
I would encourage mobileread.com to start a campaign on that, Ipad and tablet will continue to be sold, but reading is another thing

[jackie_w]

Originally Posted by trocchietto

... you see the cover you remember the story

This is true for me, too. Plus, seeing the cover of a book read long-ago can often bring back memories of other things I was doing at the time Ah, my lost youth!