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Old 01-23-2014, 05:40 PM   #16
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eschwartz: Although dictionaries don't multiply with the purchase of new Kindles, the User Guides sometimes do. I've a got a gillion copies of old User Guides in multiple languages from the K3, K4, and Paperwhites.
Hmm, I've only got the KT. Maybe there is a set for each model? It makes sense, as each one is different.

Now that I think about it, I believe I once got an "updated version" of the Kindle Users Guide set. But I definitely didn't get multiple copies of the same KT guides other than the once.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:48 PM   #17
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I just noticed in the MYK page, if you tap books and go to the bottom, there is a link to Manage Your MP3's.

I went there and they have totally revised that page with buy recommendations along the side. It appears that may have replaced the Amazon Music Importer software as well.

I wonder if some non-owners of either Paperwhites or Fires will object to that as well. Those, who only buy iTunes, will probably find that link totally useless.

There is definitely a difference between the interests of Kindle users with annual updates and those who rarely buy new Kindles or simply use non-Kindles. It also appears from polls I posted at prior times that most of the non-Kindle users are dependent on Calibre and Alf and their needs are far different from the Kindle users.

For me the MYK page is great and getting even greater. Those, who don't like Kindles and prefer to use Kindle Apps on other hardware, may disagree.

The non-PW and non-Fire users will simply have to tolerate the needs of the Kindle users.

Maybe Amazon needs to create two different MYK pages one for users of their Kindle Apps and another for users of their Kindles. A custom MYK page for users of Kindle Apps should probably have a link to the Calibre page and the Alf page as well.

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Old 01-23-2014, 05:50 PM   #18
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Hmm, I've only got the KT. Maybe there is a set for each model? It makes sense, as each one is different.

Now that I think about it, I believe I once got an "updated version" of the Kindle Users Guide set. But I definitely didn't get multiple copies of the same KT guides other than the once.
I've had every model of Kindle from Keyboard to PW1 and I have four user guides. I'm glad the dictionaries don't multiply, that's a relief.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:59 PM   #19
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I've had every model of Kindle from Keyboard to PW1 and I have four user guides. I'm glad the dictionaries don't multiply, that's a relief.
I've got 16 user guides. I certainly don't need any of them after I've read the one for each model I'm currently using.
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Old 01-23-2014, 07:40 PM   #20
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What if you suddenly decided to study Spanish or some other language? Then, you'd be glad that the dictionary was there.

I don't get why people get so put out by having a few extra free books on their account.
I cannot speak for anyone else but personally I use MYK along with Kindle for PC to maintain copies of my entire library locally. Therefore seeing the total counts helps me to narrow down if any books are missing. Since the dictionaries/user guides are not k4pc compatible having them in my MYK makes it much harder to maintain control of my library.

But that is really irrelevant, just because it is offered for free does not mean users should be forced to use them. Especially in multiple languages. If I chose to delete all dictionaries that I did not want and then later decided I did, then I would have to purchase a dictionary to meet my needs. Yes I had one for free, but that is a consequence of my actions which I chose to take. And as Eschwartz stated they are all put back on the account when the device is re-registered, so the user should continue to have the option to remove them from MYK.

And while I would love to be able to get rid of them, I am content that they do not show up under books.
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Hmm, I've only got the KT. Maybe there is a set for each model? It makes sense, as each one is different.

Now that I think about it, I believe I once got an "updated version" of the Kindle Users Guide set. But I definitely didn't get multiple copies of the same KT guides other than the once.

I am not sure about the other kindles but both my pw1 and pw2 have two copies each of the user guides.
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I just noticed in the MYK page, if you tap books and go to the bottom, there is a link to Manage Your MP3's.

I went there and they have totally revised that page with buy recommendations along the side. It appears that may have replaced the Amazon Music Importer software as well.

I wonder if some non-owners of either Paperwhites or Fires will object to that as well. Those, who only buy iTunes, will probably find that link totally useless.

There is definitely a difference between the interests of Kindle users with annual updates and those who rarely buy new Kindles or simply use non-Kindles. It also appears from polls I posted at prior times that most of the non-Kindle users are dependent on Calibre and Alf and their needs are far different from the Kindle users.

For me the MYK page is great and getting even greater. Those, who don't like Kindles and prefer to use Kindle Apps on other hardware, may disagree.

The non-PW and non-Fire users will simply have to tolerate the needs of the Kindle users.

Maybe Amazon needs to create two different MYK pages one for users of their Kindle Apps and another for users of their Kindles. A custom MYK page for users of Kindle Apps should probably have a link to the Calibre page and the Alf page as well.
What are you talking about?? What does manage your mp3s have to do with anything? That is in a separate section that you would have to select separately, so how does that affect users who have the kindles that do not have audio capabilities?? But now that you mentioned it, it would have been cool if the mp3s showed up in for the devices that do have those features and you could send them to your device. Otherwise why add it to this section? Though I assume they are trying to put all the multimedia together.
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But that is really irrelevant, just because it is offered for free does not mean users should be forced to use them. Especially in multiple languages. If I chose to delete all dictionaries that I did not want and then later decided I did, then I would have to purchase a dictionary to meet my needs. Yes I had one for free, but that is a consequence of my actions which I chose to take. And as Eschwartz stated they are all put back on the account when the device is re-registered, so the user should continue to have the option to remove them from MYK.
And an even better argument is that I can delete a book I DID buy.
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I've got 16 user guides. I certainly don't need any of them after I've read the one for each model I'm currently using.
How many devices are associated with all those guides? If you deregister any of the devices, do the guides disappear??
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How many devices are associated with all those guides? If you deregister any of the devices, do the guides disappear??
I've only got four Kindles left. I still have 16 user guides. I have no idea why there are so many.

However, as long as they don't show up under Books, they really don't bother me. They are just wasted so far as I am concerned.

I don't use most of those dictionaries either but, since they also don't show up under Books, what difference do they make? If I buy a book in almost any language now, I can send the proper dictionary to my Kindle. That option works fine for me.

As one person noted above, our dictionary needs may change over time. We may vacation in a different nation, learn a new language or have some other needs for multilingual choices of dictionaries.

I've also noticed that Apps and MP3 songs have been formatted at the MYK page differently than in the past and all are linked from the Book page. Naturally, non-Kindle owners won't like those options. However, I'm sure Kindle owners do like them.

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