Can I run Sigil from Xubuntu?

[capidamonte]

I don't use the Software Center, I use Synaptic, but the same idea.

In Synaptic, you just go: Settings --> Repositories --> Other Software --> Add. Then paste this line:

ppa:rgibert/ebook

into the text field that says "APT line". Click the "Add Source" button. When the dialog closes, hit the "Close" button on the remaining dialog window. Then click the "Reload" button in the main window.

Now, if you're comfortable with Synaptic, install it from there. If not, close Synaptic and return to the Software Center and refresh and search for Sigil.

If Synaptic is not installed on your system, you should be able to install it from Software Center. You can only have one of these apps open and working at a time -- the first one opened will lock the other out.

Hope that helps.

I run a bastardized version of Mint, because I was in too much of a hurry last time to do a minimal ubuntu install. I prefer XFCE, myself.

Don't worry about the window manager, all the 'buntu's are more-or-less compatible. Sometimes you just have to install some extra stuff, that's all.

[Gregg Bell]

Originally Posted by latepaul

Just another datapoint. I'm running Xubuntu 13.10 also and I use 0.7.4 compiled from the git repository. I'd say that it's "not that hard" to do but I guess I'm very familiar with Linux in general and compilation, command line use etc. If adding a repo to the software sources seems confusing then a series of steps on how to compile might also be daunting.

As for XP and its potential vulnerability post April 1: XP won't magically change overnight but the attacks are always changing and XP will no longer be being updated to protect itself.

Thanks latepaul. I've got a while to get used to Linux and there's lots of tutorials, so I'll just pick it up piece by piece. And I really do like XP so maybe I'll just go on using that too. Appreciate the advice.

[Gregg Bell]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

With a hardware firewall and up to date antivirus/malware software, I wouldn't hesitate to continue using XP (not that I want to discourage anyone from using Linux). I'd worry more about newer software not functioning properly than I would viruses.

I've got the XP pretty loaded up with AV and scanners. I can fight off those darn viruses till the bitter end. And yeah, I know the newer software will be the issue. Thanks for the input.

Originally Posted by eschwartz

You can, but if you have 13.10, then the Gibert repository will also work. (There is only a 13.10 version there. You could probably still install from there, but I've never tried to trick a repository into giving me the wrong version of a package. ) Although the changes between 0.7.3 and 0.7.4 are very minor for the most part.

Thanks eschwartz. I'm not tricking anybody. I'm just trying to understand this stuff. I like using the newer versions of Sigil. (That "view" window with the automatic warnings if something was off was an incredible boon.) Thanks.

Originally Posted by mrmikel

The only difference between 0.7.3 and 0.7.4 I can recall is in the coding of non-breaking spaces, mostly to handle documents coming out of calibre.

Thanks mrmikel. Although I do have 0.7.2 I'm sure the changes from 0.7.2 to 0.7.3 are not that big a deal either.

[Gregg Bell]

Originally Posted by theducks

Any Dialect (U,X,E) of Ubuntu runs on Optiplex, Dimension (I have a 4600). . . 512M to 1G RAM is very good

Download the Live CD's (may be DVD's now (some of that bloat I mentioned) ),

Boot each (no install needed) and try the UI for best fit

Mint is a spin off of Ubuntu (back to the cleaner UI roots). Boot the Live CD of that for a spin.

The cost: Blank Optical media and Bandwidth to download

BTW I use the Live CD's to fix Windows

XP is not prone to virus. Users are prone to doing the questionable stuff (windows specific) virus writers love

'Look-out' express for mail. YES!
Clicking on 'You have WON!' while browsing. (or any of thousands of other socially engineered messages.)
Visiting XXX sites (who leave you with another kind of STD )

I hear of people running XP totally bare of security SW an surviving. Not me, but I do run minimal configurations and let my Eyes avoid the traps. I also use a Text only e-mail program configuration)
3 virus in 15 years of Windows (the payload for one was delivered by...NAV checking for virus)

I didn't know they all worked. Yeah, I'll definitely check them out. Xubuntu is cool as far as I'm concerned but it can't hurt to check out the others.

BTW I use the Live CD's to fix Windows

What did you mean by that?

Yes, definitely avoiding XXX sites. LOL

And so Outlook Express is good for email on Linux? (I read a little about it. That it works good with bare bones machines.) (But why not just use gmail or whatever I normally use, and the "html version for slow machines" if need be?)

Thx for all the good info.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Gregg Bell

Thanks eschwartz. I'm not tricking anybody. I'm just trying to understand this stuff. I like using the newer versions of Sigil. (That "view" window with the automatic warnings if something was off was an incredible boon.) Thanks.

Obviously, by "trick" I mean tell a repository to give you a version meant for a different edition of the OS. Like telling the Gibert repository to install the Ubuntu 13.10 version of Sigil on a Ubuntu 12.04 system. Even though they are probably the exact same exectuable files, the software center (really, apt-get) might not realize that.

Thanks mrmikel. Although I do have 0.7.2 I'm sure the changes from 0.7.2 to 0.7.3 are not that big a deal either.

Here is the changelog, if you are interested.

https://github.com/user-none/Sigil/b.../ChangeLog.txt

One issue you probably DO care about is 0.7.2 converted   into a regular space, thus breaking the blank paragraphs sometimes used as scene breaks. That was fixed in 0.7.3

[Gregg Bell]

Originally Posted by capidamonte

I don't use the Software Center, I use Synaptic, but the same idea.

In Synaptic, you just go: Settings --> Repositories --> Other Software --> Add. Then paste this line:

ppa:rgibert/ebook

into the text field that says "APT line". Click the "Add Source" button. When the dialog closes, hit the "Close" button on the remaining dialog window. Then click the "Reload" button in the main window.

Now, if you're comfortable with Synaptic, install it from there. If not, close Synaptic and return to the Software Center and refresh and search for Sigil.

If Synaptic is not installed on your system, you should be able to install it from Software Center. You can only have one of these apps open and working at a time -- the first one opened will lock the other out.

Hope that helps.

I run a bastardized version of Mint, because I was in too much of a hurry last time to do a minimal ubuntu install. I prefer XFCE, myself.

Don't worry about the window manager, all the 'buntu's are more-or-less compatible. Sometimes you just have to install some extra stuff, that's all.

That really helps, capidamonte. That'll get me into it for sure. I'm guessing I'll head back to the Software Center to get it after the reload. Maybe not. But now you've given me a concrete way of getting it. Thanks. And no, do not have Synaptic yet. Read about it a bit after your last post but did not know I could get it from the software center. Perfect. And yeah, definitely going to check out the different versions. Thanks much.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Gregg Bell

I didn't know they all worked. Yeah, I'll definitely check them out. Xubuntu is cool as far as I'm concerned but it can't hurt to check out the others.

BTW I use the Live CD's to fix Windows

What did you mean by that?

Yes, definitely avoiding XXX sites. LOL

And so Outlook Express is good for email on Linux? (I read a little about it. That it works good with bare bones machines.) (But why not just use gmail or whatever I normally use, and the "html version for slow machines" if need be?)

Thx for all the good info.

Note I wrote Look out for a good reason it is the #1 target for virus writers
And No, it does not run on Native Linux (it might run under Wine, but OMG)

There are e-mail clients bundled (I use Eudora 7 on XP and Web Mail (browser based)when on Linux. Nobody makes anything I like better than the old Eudora.).
Linux has Thunderbird or Evolution (suite. Must be installed, no longer in the standard config)

[mrmikel]

The regular Ubuntu setup includes Synaptic Package Manager, but you have to cast around a bit by clicking on the bar on the left side of the screen to find where it lists all the installed and available programs...not very intuitive. If my aging memory serves, once you find it you can drag it to that bar so it doesn't get lost again.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by mrmikel

The regular Ubuntu setup includes Synaptic Package Manager, but you have to cast around a bit by clicking on the bar on the left side of the screen to find where it lists all the installed and available programs...not very intuitive. If my aging memory serves, once you find it you can drag it to that bar so it doesn't get lost again.

+1 for the old Synaptic

When a program is 'open' (in use), right click the Icon: Pin to Menubar

I created a shell script consisting of Kovid's commandline for the Linux Update. That is pinned to my Menubar

(Grumps: The old Ubuntu menu was so much easier to deal with /Grumps)

[mrmikel]

(Grumps: The old Ubuntu menu was so much easier to deal with /Grumps)

+1

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by theducks

I created a shell script consisting of Kovid's commandline for the Linux Update. That is pinned to my Menubar

Cron job +1.

[Gregg Bell]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Obviously, by "trick" I mean tell a repository to give you a version meant for a different edition of the OS. Like telling the Gibert repository to install the Ubuntu 13.10 version of Sigil on a Ubuntu 12.04 system. Even though they are probably the exact same exectuable files, the software center (really, apt-get) might not realize that.


Here is the changelog, if you are interested.

https://github.com/user-none/Sigil/b.../ChangeLog.txt

One issue you probably DO care about is 0.7.2 converted   into a regular space, thus breaking the blank paragraphs sometimes used as scene breaks. That was fixed in 0.7.3

But I gotta tell you you put a panic into me with the 0.7.2 converting   into a regular space (and breaking blank paragraphs used as scene breaks). I used to do that a lot a long time ago and I'm sure it was with Sigil versions earlier than 0.7.2 BUT I did have a lot of scene breaks using  s as spacers to center the asterisks (which were scene breaks) in my current stuff. I'm on a different computer so I can't check it out now but in all the proofing it looked okay so I think I'm all right. And thanks for the change log. Appreciate it.

[Gregg Bell]

Originally Posted by theducks

Note I wrote Look out for a good reason it is the #1 target for virus writers
And No, it does not run on Native Linux (it might run under Wine, but OMG)

There are e-mail clients bundled (I use Eudora 7 on XP and Web Mail (browser based)when on Linux. Nobody makes anything I like better than the old Eudora.).
Linux has Thunderbird or Evolution (suite. Must be installed, no longer in the standard config)

Glad I asked about the "Look Out." I would've been going out of my way to install it because you recommended it! I've used Tbird. It's okay. Just asking for passwords on incoming and outgoing email was a little tedious. I'll have to check into Web Mail. I Googled it and came up blank. Got a link for it? Thx.

[Gregg Bell]

I'm going to re-visit your guys' advice when I delve into Synaptic. I really appreciate all the great advice. Thanks very much!

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by theducks

I created a shell script consisting of Kovid's commandline for the Linux Update. That is pinned to my Menubar

In fact, I know you were (an early commenter) on the thread here where we discussed this. For laziness' sake, haven't you fixed this already?!?!?!

Put this (^) script in a cron job.