Paperwhite Gen(2) Release Candidates - Page 2

knc1 · 10-08-2013, 02:44 PM

A move to another Cloud Service is underway.

But a box.com free account is still an easy way to test clients.
Just be careful you don't buy something you didn't intend.

npoland · 10-08-2013, 04:45 PM

"Exam week???"

http://illinois.edu/calendar/list/557

Not that is not for two more months.

knc1 · 10-08-2013, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npoland

"Exam week???"

http://illinois.edu/calendar/list/557

Not that is not for two more months.

Must have read it wrong, sorry.

knc1 · 10-09-2013, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

A move to another Cloud Service is underway.

But a box.com free account is still an easy way to test clients.
Just be careful you don't buy something you didn't intend.

There are two Cloud Service providers under consideration:

NiLuJe is working with a Cloud Service provided by "his" hosting company. (OpenStack {Swift} API)

I am working with a Cloud Service provided by "my" hosting company. (OpenStack {Swift} API and Amazon S3 API)

Nobody has mentioned that they are working with the Amazon S3 Cloud Service. (Which Amazon uses for its distributions.)
I am not all that sure distributing Kindle Hacks using the Amazon S3 Cloud Service is a "good idea (tm)".

On the client side of the story - -
#1 Nobody has a pre-built binary for the Kindle (surprise, surprise

).

But to be long-term useful for the distribution of Kindle packages, a "Kindle Klient" is highly desirable.

#2 Known clients (any of which **might** be portable into a Klient version):

OpenStack Swift API:

https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-swiftclient
NiLuJe is working with the desktop version of this one.

OpenStack Swift **and** Amazon S3 API:

http://cyberduck.ch/
*A: This one hasn't been built for Linux
*B: It is Java, so might be possible to port

FTP and Amazon S3 API:

http://www.crossftp.com/
*A: There is a Linux build ( Yeah! )
*B: It comes in "free, feature limited" and "for purchase" editions.
*C: It is also a Java application
*D: I don't find the sources, only the binaries.
*E: The 'free' edition does not have any management features.

- - - - -

Any other, OpenStack {Swift} API, clients known by our readers - please describe and provide links in this thread.

knc1 · 10-09-2013, 05:04 PM

There is an (intentionally) unpublished 'trick' required.

But anyone jailbreaking at this point is doing it over the IRC channel, so we tell them about it there.

Just not giving lab126 any more lessons.

AcidWeb · 10-10-2013, 02:00 AM

There are some reason why you need OpenStack API for this type of storage? Why just don't use SFTP? It is free. Server of it exist on every Linux machine and Kindle already have everything to use it.

knc1 · 10-10-2013, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcidWeb

There are some reason why you need OpenStack API for this type of storage? Why just don't use SFTP? It is free. Server of it exist on every Linux machine and Kindle already have everything to use it.

two words: Access Control

AcidWeb · 10-10-2013, 06:16 AM

OK. Point taken.

If you still thinking about WebDav: OwnCloud instance could be appropriate to your needs.

knc1 · 10-10-2013, 07:04 AM

The one thing I would like to be handled by the repository software, rather than a human crew of repo gods, is file level access control.

For the Kindles, we have the situation where there are nearly as many authors as there are packages.

A system where we can implement the concept of file ownership and permissions would be best.

That is:
An 'owner' can update/add/delete/change/whatever their own files;
An 'owner' can create a new entry in the repo;
Otherwise, an 'owner' has only the same access rights as the general public.

Many of our contributors make one-time contributions.
They make something that solves a problem for themselves and want to share it.

Therefore, whatever client is provided or required needs to be simple to use, and generally available.
A client that is packaged to run on Kindles would meet the 'generally available' as far as our community is concerned.

WebDAV does not meet the above requirements as well as a Cloud Service does.
But it does serve the needs of a small, closely cooperative, group of people. A situation that does not require file-level access control, just common sense.

Since with the introduction by Amazon of this new device, we (the cooperating developers here) are not waiting for an end-user Jailbreak to be developed before "porting and testing" our existing packages.

Which is the reason for this thread and the "Release Candidates" repo.
It allows the few Kpw2 owners who have manually jailbroken their device to test and contribute packages for the new device.

Since this is a small and (hopefully) short lived repository -
It seems a good development ground for a more general public package repository.

The "general public" needing only to be able to download the most recent (Cloud Services do version control) package will not need any addition to their Kindle.

They can (or a script can for them) download using wget/curl/web browser - - distribution just looks like and acts like a URL.

Overall, a very interesting problem to be solved.

otichy · 10-10-2013, 11:23 AM

If more serials are needed, then my PW2 serial from German Amazon also starts with B0D4 (arrived today).

knc1 · 10-10-2013, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otichy

If more serials are needed, then my PW2 serial from German Amazon also starts with B0D4 (arrived today).

Thanks!

That means the same model for US, UK and Germany

ixtab · 10-10-2013, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

Thanks!

That means the same model for US, UK and Germany

... and Spain, and other countries, as reported in the main forum

So it's safe to assume that this is the "international" version.

rostamiani · 10-20-2013, 11:51 AM

Thanks for your work

Do you think is there any chance to install KPW2 firmware on first edition ? I know it will be a little slower.

knc1 · 10-20-2013, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rostamiani

Thanks for your work

Do you think is there any chance to install KPW2 firmware on first edition ? I know it will be a little slower.

Yes - in this case the only major change was to add the Kpw2 model identification to the packages.

Also, see the more recent:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=225030

That will become the 'home' page for NiLuJe's work.

NiLuJe · 10-20-2013, 12:35 PM

I think he meant *full* FW images, in which case, you're welcome to try, but that sounds like a very neat way to end up with a shiny brick

.

And given what happened with the Touch, we can assume that there's a decent chance Amazon will port most of the new SW features to the PW.

10-08-2013, 02:44 PM	#16
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Release Canidate migration A move to another Cloud Service is underway. But a box.com free account is still an easy way to test clients. Just be careful you don't buy something you didn't intend.

10-09-2013, 05:04 PM	#20
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Note on RC requirements There is an (intentionally) unpublished 'trick' required. But anyone jailbreaking at this point is doing it over the IRC channel, so we tell them about it there. Just not giving lab126 any more lessons.

10-10-2013, 02:00 AM	#21
AcidWeb KCC Co-Author Posts: 845 Karma: 765434 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Poland Device: Kindle Oasis 2	There are some reason why you need OpenStack API for this type of storage? Why just don't use SFTP? It is free. Server of it exist on every Linux machine and Kindle already have everything to use it. Last edited by AcidWeb; 10-10-2013 at 02:03 AM.

10-10-2013, 07:04 AM	#24
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	The one thing I would like to be handled by the repository software, rather than a human crew of repo gods, is file level access control. For the Kindles, we have the situation where there are nearly as many authors as there are packages. A system where we can implement the concept of file ownership and permissions would be best. That is: An 'owner' can update/add/delete/change/whatever their own files; An 'owner' can create a new entry in the repo; Otherwise, an 'owner' has only the same access rights as the general public. Many of our contributors make one-time contributions. They make something that solves a problem for themselves and want to share it. Therefore, whatever client is provided or required needs to be simple to use, and generally available. A client that is packaged to run on Kindles would meet the 'generally available' as far as our community is concerned. WebDAV does not meet the above requirements as well as a Cloud Service does. But it does serve the needs of a small, closely cooperative, group of people. A situation that does not require file-level access control, just common sense. Since with the introduction by Amazon of this new device, we (the cooperating developers here) are not waiting for an end-user Jailbreak to be developed before "porting and testing" our existing packages. Which is the reason for this thread and the "Release Candidates" repo. It allows the few Kpw2 owners who have manually jailbroken their device to test and contribute packages for the new device. Since this is a small and (hopefully) short lived repository - It seems a good development ground for a more general public package repository. The "general public" needing only to be able to download the most recent (Cloud Services do version control) package will not need any addition to their Kindle. They can (or a script can for them) download using wget/curl/web browser - - distribution just looks like and acts like a URL. Overall, a very interesting problem to be solved. Last edited by knc1; 10-10-2013 at 07:06 AM.

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10-08-2013, 04:45 PM	#17
npoland 1st KPW2 JB Posts: 26 Karma: 133537 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: PW2	"Exam week???" http://illinois.edu/calendar/list/557 Not that is not for two more months.

10-10-2013, 06:16 AM	#23
AcidWeb KCC Co-Author Posts: 845 Karma: 765434 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Poland Device: Kindle Oasis 2	OK. Point taken. If you still thinking about WebDav: OwnCloud instance could be appropriate to your needs.

10-10-2013, 11:23 AM	#25
otichy Connoisseur Posts: 82 Karma: 5072 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: KPW	If more serials are needed, then my PW2 serial from German Amazon also starts with B0D4 (arrived today).

10-20-2013, 11:51 AM	#28
rostamiani Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2012 Device: Sony PRS T1	Thanks for your work Do you think is there any chance to install KPW2 firmware on first edition ? I know it will be a little slower.

10-20-2013, 12:35 PM	#30
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047190 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	I think he meant full FW images, in which case, you're welcome to try, but that sounds like a very neat way to end up with a shiny brick . And given what happened with the Touch, we can assume that there's a decent chance Amazon will port most of the new SW features to the PW.

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