Low/High Setting on KPW - Page 2

HarryT · 03-14-2013, 11:03 AM

24!

. Your choice, of course, but if you're in full daylight, do you really need that much light?

kacir · 03-14-2013, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gers1978

Why oh why they couldn't just give us an option to turn it completely off?

There are several ways of how to switch the light off completely.
- KUAL has a module for doing that,
- JBPatch,
Duokan,
and my favourite - Coolreader by CrazyCoder.
There are a few more options, but those haven't moved out of very early beta stage yet, or I haven't tried them out yet.

As for why ...
When you switch the light off completely in a moderately lit room the difference between the '0' and really off is quite big. With the light off you have just ordinary e-ink - which I happen to like. They wanted people to think that the screen is Paper White.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

The obvious question that springs to mind is why you bought a PW if you don't actually want to use the light?

Because sometimes, like when I go for a holiday and I want to read in a really poorly lit room, or when I go camping, or when in public transport early in the [winter] morning, the light does come in handy. For everyday use I prefer unlit screen. I have been happily using unlit e-ink screens for more than five years.

There are a few similar threads, like:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=205272

Stingo · 03-14-2013, 12:57 PM

Hmmnn. Interesting personal variations. I tend to keep it at 17 or 18 in bright rooms to keep the white look. At 2-3 when my eyes are very dark adapted and at 6-8 when they are still not very dark adapted. Outside in full daylight (Florida very bright), sometimes I just turn the light off sometimes I have it at 18 to 20 if it is a bit overcast.

Atunah · 03-14-2013, 02:03 PM

I can't go over 4 in a totally dark room. It hurts my eyes. I remember one time my hubby gave me his iphone in a dark bedroom to show me something. I grabbed it and it was like looking in the sun. I saw flashes for a while after. Ouch that hurt.

. He had his light on daytime setting I guess.

Before I got my paperwhite, I used my old fire for a while and even the darkest setting wasn't dark enough for me, I had to get a dim app.

When I first got my paperwhite I constantly fiddled with the light settings. 3, 12, 17. Now that I finally settled, I keep it at 4-5 at all times. Day and evening.
Even if I am in bed its at 4. I don't read though in a totally dark room so I have a small lamp on the side.

For me I want the PW to be readable at all times, without me having to fiddle. 4 does that. Or 5. Right now its at 4 and it stays for a while.
I read a lot while watching TV. So I have a side lamp and its dark-ish in the room. With my kindle keyboard, I used to have to lean towards the light, which hurt my back and neck after a while. On setting 4 with the PW, it gets me enough light to not have to do that.

I never really had any issues with the e-ink screen in bright light, so I don't need the light on the PW any higher either. But its fantastic when it gets darker inside, or when I am not near a window, outside, or at night.

Now that I have had my light at low settings all the time, I tried putting it up at 17 just to see and I don't like it. It looks like its lit. I just want it to look a bit less dingy than the e-ink screen and more like paper. The moment I notice its lit its way to high.

Gazella · 03-14-2013, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kacir

There are several ways of how to switch the light off completely.
- KUAL has a module for doing that,
- JBPatch,
Duokan,
and my favourite - Coolreader by CrazyCoder.
There are a few more options, but those haven't moved out of very early beta stage yet, or I haven't tried them out yet.

I thought setting the light at 0 is switching the backlight completely off. Do you have to have the PW jailbroken in order to install the above? I'd be interested to see the difference.

Yolina · 03-14-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gazella20

I thought setting the light at 0 is switching the backlight completely off. Do you have to have the PW jailbroken in order to install the above? I'd be interested to see the difference.

The light is still on at 0
Yes JB required - I have the light toggle via Kual

With the light off completely it looks exactly like the previous non-lit kindle screens

There's quite a difference in lighting levels between PW units - 24 on my first one is equivalent to about 17 on the replacement (which it miles better overall). I tend to have mine at 2 in low light (bedside lamp on), about 8 in general artificial light and between 12 to 14 in natural light depending on how bright it is (not very in London at the moment!)

Blossom · 03-14-2013, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yolina

There's quite a difference in lighting levels between PW units - 24 on my first one is equivalent to about 17 on the replacement (which it miles better overall). I tend to have mine at 2 in low light (bedside lamp on), about 8 in general artificial light and between 12 to 14 in natural light depending on how bright it is (not very in London at the moment!)

You can say that again. If I put mine on 2 I couldn't see anything. All the way down it barely glows in the dark. On mine there is a huge jump between 3 and 2.

tofubean · 03-14-2013, 10:55 PM

I set mine at 12 almost everywhere, which works especially great for me while indoors with good lighting. I only turn it down to 4-6 when it's total darkness.

Gazella · 03-15-2013, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yolina

With the light off completely it looks exactly like the previous non-lit kindle screens

That's just it. I've never had a Kindle before. The Paperwhite is my first one so I don't really know how the previous Kindle screens look like. If anyone can provide me with a picture of their screen with the light completely off so that I can compare it with my KPW with the light at 0 I'd very much appreciate it.

Blossom · 03-15-2013, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazella20

That's just it. I've never had a Kindle before. The Paperwhite is my first one so I don't really know how the previous Kindle screens look like. If anyone can provide me with a picture of their screen with the light completely off so that I can compare it with my KPW with the light at 0 I'd very much appreciate it.

I wouldn't say it's exactly like other Kindles. The background on the PW is more cleaner and the higher resolution plays a big part in difference. There is also the extra layer of plastic or glass that makes it shiny. You don't notice this with the light on. Without the light it does look like eInk but better than previous Kindles. I couldn't read a long time without the light due to the extra layer on the PW. It makes me feel like I am reading through a glass window.

HarryT · 03-15-2013, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazella20

That's just it. I've never had a Kindle before. The Paperwhite is my first one so I don't really know how the previous Kindle screens look like. If anyone can provide me with a picture of their screen with the light completely off so that I can compare it with my KPW with the light at 0 I'd very much appreciate it.

There is no visible difference except in complete darkness, where the PW at 0 will have the screen very faintly illuminated, whereas the light off is obviously off. You can see the difference for yourself: set the light to zero, then press the power switch to put the Kindle to sleep (which turns off the light). Do you see any visible difference in the illumination of the screen when you do this?

Gazella · 03-15-2013, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

There is no visible difference except in complete darkness, where the PW at 0 will have the screen very faintly illuminated, whereas the light off is obviously off. You can see the difference for yourself: set the light to zero, then press the power switch to put the Kindle to sleep (which turns off the light). Do you see any visible difference in the illumination of the screen when you do this?

Yes, I can see the difference when I'm in a dark room. So that's how screens of previous eInk Kindles with no backlight look like? I found it rather dark.

HarryT · 03-15-2013, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazella20

Yes, I can see the difference when I'm in a dark room. So that's how screens of previous eInk Kindles with no backlight look like? I found it rather dark.

That's right. You always needed fairly decent lighting to comfortably read an eInk screen prior to the introduction of frontlit readers.

Gazella · 03-19-2013, 02:07 AM

Ok so this is irrelevant to the discussion but I didn't want to make a new thread just for it. So the question is this: can't I use my gift card credits to buy books from the Kindle Store on my Paperwhite? Do I have to buy using my credit card?

HarryT · 03-19-2013, 02:53 AM

What problem are you seeing when you try to buy books? It should work just fine.

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03-14-2013, 11:03 AM	#16
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	24! . Your choice, of course, but if you're in full daylight, do you really need that much light?

03-14-2013, 12:57 PM	#18
Stingo Fanatic Posts: 581 Karma: 1334691 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Miami Device: KH2O, KPW2, KDXG, KPW1, K3, S505	Hmmnn. Interesting personal variations. I tend to keep it at 17 or 18 in bright rooms to keep the white look. At 2-3 when my eyes are very dark adapted and at 6-8 when they are still not very dark adapted. Outside in full daylight (Florida very bright), sometimes I just turn the light off sometimes I have it at 18 to 20 if it is a bit overcast.

03-14-2013, 02:03 PM	#19
Atunah Wizard Posts: 1,817 Karma: 23400001 Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Device: K1/K3/BasicK Voyage/Oasis1/Oasis3	I can't go over 4 in a totally dark room. It hurts my eyes. I remember one time my hubby gave me his iphone in a dark bedroom to show me something. I grabbed it and it was like looking in the sun. I saw flashes for a while after. Ouch that hurt. . He had his light on daytime setting I guess. Before I got my paperwhite, I used my old fire for a while and even the darkest setting wasn't dark enough for me, I had to get a dim app. When I first got my paperwhite I constantly fiddled with the light settings. 3, 12, 17. Now that I finally settled, I keep it at 4-5 at all times. Day and evening. Even if I am in bed its at 4. I don't read though in a totally dark room so I have a small lamp on the side. For me I want the PW to be readable at all times, without me having to fiddle. 4 does that. Or 5. Right now its at 4 and it stays for a while. I read a lot while watching TV. So I have a side lamp and its dark-ish in the room. With my kindle keyboard, I used to have to lean towards the light, which hurt my back and neck after a while. On setting 4 with the PW, it gets me enough light to not have to do that. I never really had any issues with the e-ink screen in bright light, so I don't need the light on the PW any higher either. But its fantastic when it gets darker inside, or when I am not near a window, outside, or at night. Now that I have had my light at low settings all the time, I tried putting it up at 17 just to see and I don't like it. It looks like its lit. I just want it to look a bit less dingy than the e-ink screen and more like paper. The moment I notice its lit its way to high.

03-14-2013, 10:55 PM	#23
tofubean Connoisseur Posts: 75 Karma: 64 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: K3, iPad, PW	I set mine at 12 almost everywhere, which works especially great for me while indoors with good lighting. I only turn it down to 4-6 when it's total darkness.

03-19-2013, 02:07 AM	#29
Gazella Wizard Posts: 1,705 Karma: 4619474 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Kindle Scribe, Kindle Paperwhite	Ok so this is irrelevant to the discussion but I didn't want to make a new thread just for it. So the question is this: can't I use my gift card credits to buy books from the Kindle Store on my Paperwhite? Do I have to buy using my credit card?

03-19-2013, 02:53 AM	#30
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	What problem are you seeing when you try to buy books? It should work just fine.

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